Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › I have lost faith in Portable PC Gaming. Real shame Nvidia.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

I have lost faith in Portable PC Gaming. Real shame Nvidia.

post #1 of 26
11/11/12 at 3:01pm
Thread Starter 
  • Joined: Oct 2011
  • Location: Florida, USA. Currently under Corporate Law.
  • Posts: 1,785
  • Rep: 98 (Unique: 88)
  • Reviews: 3
  • Trader Rating: 10
  • Folding Team Rank: 1,432
  •  
    Name Team Rank Points / May Work Units / May
    RussianHak 1,432 1,028,100 / 0 616 / 0
     
  • Select All Posts By This User
So this is why.
: As most of you might have noticed, I own a G53 with a 460M. I know this is a portable GPU, but that still does not explain how it works.

Lets take BF3 for example, I tried it with High Settings and 1080P (Hear me out) I know most of you are like "That's the reason"
but I do this just to figure out how much It can handle.
So I get like 20-30 FPS. Reasonable, since this is a Portable small GPU.

Now when I kill the Rez with lowest settings possible, I am lucky to get anything higher then 45 FPS.
We are talking about Rez Below 720P and Lowest POSSIBLE settings. I try Med settings, and still 45FPS.

Has Nvidia become lazy to the point where performance is last on there List?
I'm on 306.23 and every time I update, I have this feeling it gets even worse.
Reply
Reply
post #2 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:10pm
Prolly 45FPS is the most your CPU will allow, BF3 is one of the more CPU dependent titles. My 920 at 4.0GHz isn't even enough at times to keep my GPU's fully working. Take a look at CPU and GPU usage at the different resolutions/settings - that should give an idea of what's going on and if/where the bottleneck is.
For Games
(18 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4.0 Asus P6TD-Deluxe Asus GTX480 SLI (840/1950 Bios) 6GB XMS3 @1530 cas7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Intel X25-M 80GB OCZ Agility 120GB WD Black 1TB LG Blue ROM DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Water cooled w/ T-Balancer BigNG Win 7 x64 2x Dell Ultra-sharp Cherry 4100L 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000 MM UFO-U2 R.A.T. 7 Contagion G.L.I.D.E 9 
AudioAudio
Xonar Essence STX SR80i, DT770 or HT-R518 w/ Monitor Audio BR's 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
For Games
(18 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 920 @ 4.0 Asus P6TD-Deluxe Asus GTX480 SLI (840/1950 Bios) 6GB XMS3 @1530 cas7 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Intel X25-M 80GB OCZ Agility 120GB WD Black 1TB LG Blue ROM DVD RW 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Water cooled w/ T-Balancer BigNG Win 7 x64 2x Dell Ultra-sharp Cherry 4100L 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair HX1000 MM UFO-U2 R.A.T. 7 Contagion G.L.I.D.E 9 
AudioAudio
Xonar Essence STX SR80i, DT770 or HT-R518 w/ Monitor Audio BR's 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:14pm
When fps doesnt increase while lowering graphics settings it usualy hints at the reason being another component holding the gpu back. (even more so if you have gpu usuage software showing less than max)
What cpu u running that with?. If it isnt up to date, which considering the laptop has a 460m GPU im guessing it isnt up to date .. then its likely the cpu is holding the gpu back.
Modern games + old hardware ..doesnt work out ..bottlenecks pop up where once there were none.
Chaser 2011(Upgrading-PhantomLGA2011)
(19 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k @ 4.6ghz &1.36v P9X79 Pro Nvidia Geforce 780 G.Skill 16GB 1866mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Performance Pro 128gb Seagate Barracuda 500gb Raid 0 Seagate Barracuda 500gb Raid 0 CD/RW 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
DVD/RW Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Premium 64 Panasonic 42" Plasma (60hz) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 NZXT Hale90 V2 850w NZXT Phantom 820 White Mad Catz R.A.T 7 MMO 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Mad Catz G.L.I.D.E 9 Logitech Z5500 Speaker System Asus Xonar D2X 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Chaser 2011(Upgrading-PhantomLGA2011)
(19 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3930k @ 4.6ghz &1.36v P9X79 Pro Nvidia Geforce 780 G.Skill 16GB 1866mhz CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Corsair Performance Pro 128gb Seagate Barracuda 500gb Raid 0 Seagate Barracuda 500gb Raid 0 CD/RW 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
DVD/RW Noctua NH-D14 Windows 7 Premium 64 Panasonic 42" Plasma (60hz) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 NZXT Hale90 V2 850w NZXT Phantom 820 White Mad Catz R.A.T 7 MMO 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Mad Catz G.L.I.D.E 9 Logitech Z5500 Speaker System Asus Xonar D2X 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:20pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darren9 View Post

Prolly 45FPS is the most your CPU will allow, BF3 is one of the more CPU dependent titles. My 920 at 4.0GHz isn't even enough at times to keep my GPU's fully working. Take a look at CPU and GPU usage at the different resolutions/settings - that should give an idea of what's going on and if/where the bottleneck is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SolarNova View Post

When fps doesnt increase while lowering graphics settings it usualy hints at the reason being another component holding the gpu back. (even more so if you have gpu usuage software showing less than max)
What cpu u running that with?. If it isnt up to date, which considering the laptop has a 460m GPU im guessing it isnt up to date .. then its likely the cpu is holding the gpu back.
Modern games + old hardware ..doesnt work out ..bottlenecks pop up where once there were none.
i doubt that it is his cpu. he has an i7 in there.
My First Rig
(17 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A6-3650 F1A75-M PRO AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series Samsung Wonder Ram 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung Wonder Ram WD Caviar Blue Coolermaster hyper 212 CM R4 Sickleflow X3 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Artic Silver 5 Windows 7 Professional  Samsung Syncmaster SA10 18.5" Logitech K520 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CM xTreme power 500w Thermaltake Commander MSI Logitech M310 Some generic mousepad.. 
Audio
Logitech Z313 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
My First Rig
(17 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD A6-3650 F1A75-M PRO AMD Radeon HD 6700 Series Samsung Wonder Ram 
RAMHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung Wonder Ram WD Caviar Blue Coolermaster hyper 212 CM R4 Sickleflow X3 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Artic Silver 5 Windows 7 Professional  Samsung Syncmaster SA10 18.5" Logitech K520 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
CM xTreme power 500w Thermaltake Commander MSI Logitech M310 Some generic mousepad.. 
Audio
Logitech Z313 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:30pm
It could be his CPU, mobile i7's are pretty clockspeed gimped. He has a i7-2670QM which running @ 2.2ghz (3.1ghz turbo). But I think that turbo boost is limited to a single core, so in games like BF3 he's probably running at 2.2ghz. Even if it could turbo on multiple cores, it would probably have to thermally throttle after a few minutes.
SB in the HOUSE!
(14 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8ghz Asus P8Z68-V Pro PNY GTX580 Liquid Cooled 16gb DDR3 1600 G.Skill CL9 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Cosair F3 180gb + 2tb Hitachi 7200 LG DVDRW H100 Win7 x64 Premium 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP 2511x Saitek Eclipse II 900w Rocketfish Antec 300 (modded) 
Mouse
Logitech USB 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
SB in the HOUSE!
(14 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500k @ 4.8ghz Asus P8Z68-V Pro PNY GTX580 Liquid Cooled 16gb DDR3 1600 G.Skill CL9 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Cosair F3 180gb + 2tb Hitachi 7200 LG DVDRW H100 Win7 x64 Premium 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
HP 2511x Saitek Eclipse II 900w Rocketfish Antec 300 (modded) 
Mouse
Logitech USB 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:32pm
You also have to remember that with some games setting things like shadows to low will actually make it now work on the CPU and not the GPU, causing even worse problems.
Amatuer Gaming Rig
(13 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k @ 4.5Ghz (1.28 Volts) MSI P67A-G45 EVGA GTX 660 Ti 8GB DDR3 RAM (Corsair & OCZ Reaper) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Seagate 500GB 7,500RPM Windows 64-bit Hanns.G HI221 D-Sub Standard Microsoft Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouse
True Power Quattro 850W PSU Antec 900 Gaming Case Standard USB Mouse 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Amatuer Gaming Rig
(13 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-2500k @ 4.5Ghz (1.28 Volts) MSI P67A-G45 EVGA GTX 660 Ti 8GB DDR3 RAM (Corsair & OCZ Reaper) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Seagate 500GB 7,500RPM Windows 64-bit Hanns.G HI221 D-Sub Standard Microsoft Keyboard 
PowerCaseMouse
True Power Quattro 850W PSU Antec 900 Gaming Case Standard USB Mouse 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:48pm
Thread Starter 
  • Joined: Oct 2011
  • Location: Florida, USA. Currently under Corporate Law.
  • Posts: 1,785
  • Rep: 98 (Unique: 88)
  • Reviews: 3
  • Trader Rating: 10
  • Folding Team Rank: 1,432
  •  
    Name Team Rank Points / May Work Units / May
    RussianHak 1,432 1,028,100 / 0 616 / 0
     
  • Select All Posts By This User
Thing is, no matter what settings I choose, same effect. I will do anything for playable 60FPS.
Reply
Reply
post #8 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:55pm
could look into overlcocking the 460m, but make sure your temps are in check
Xeon
(15 items)
 
Server
(13 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon X3440 |1.38v|4.013 ghz Asus P7P55 WS SuperComputer Asus DCII 7970 8gb Gskill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128gb Raid 0 = 256gb Asus EX360 6 AP-15's push/pull Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Yamakasi 30" 2560x1600 Max Keyboards NightHawk X8 Custom Corsair TX 850 Corsair 800D 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G700 Steelseries QCK FIIO E7/E9 combo 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 965 ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 Ati 5770 12 G.Skill Ripjaws  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Blue Drive Intel 40gb ssd  Asus Dvd Burner Stock 
OSPowerCase
ESXI ThermalTake 700 watt  ThermalTake V9 Black Edition  
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Xeon
(15 items)
 
Server
(13 items)
  		 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Xeon X3440 |1.38v|4.013 ghz Asus P7P55 WS SuperComputer Asus DCII 7970 8gb Gskill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Vertex 4 128gb Raid 0 = 256gb Asus EX360 6 AP-15's push/pull Windows 7 Pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Yamakasi 30" 2560x1600 Max Keyboards NightHawk X8 Custom Corsair TX 850 Corsair 800D 
MouseMouse PadAudio
Logitech G700 Steelseries QCK FIIO E7/E9 combo 
View all
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 965 ASUS M4A87TD EVO AM3 Ati 5770 12 G.Skill Ripjaws  
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Western Digital 500GB Blue Drive Intel 40gb ssd  Asus Dvd Burner Stock 
OSPowerCase
ESXI ThermalTake 700 watt  ThermalTake V9 Black Edition  
View all
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 26
11/11/12 at 4:58pm
Thread Starter 
  • Joined: Oct 2011
  • Location: Florida, USA. Currently under Corporate Law.
  • Posts: 1,785
  • Rep: 98 (Unique: 88)
  • Reviews: 3
  • Trader Rating: 10
  • Folding Team Rank: 1,432
  •  
    Name Team Rank Points / May Work Units / May
    RussianHak 1,432 1,028,100 / 0 616 / 0
     
  • Select All Posts By This User
Okay I tried to do another test, to see how it will work. I clocked it higher this time, now I get Higher FPS with 1080P then 720P. How in the hell? 1080P = Around 40 720P = around 35.
Edited by RussianHak - 11/11/12 at 5:18pm
Reply
Reply
post #10 of 26
11/11/12 at 5:01pm
Turning eye Candy Up taxes the Gpu more then the Cpu that is why you see the Same frames for Med and low settings.
Vishera Fan Boi Slayer
(19 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3770k 5.2ghz  GIGABYTE G1 Assassin Sniper 3 7950 with Alphacool block 7950 w/ Alphacool Block 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveCooling
7950 w/ Alphacool block G.SKILL Trident X 2500mhz 2x4gb SanDisk Extreme 240gb sata III 6gbs x5 SwiftTech Apongee Drive II 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Monsta 360 86mm thick rad X 4 MCP 35X Pump x2 400ML Frozen Q Fusion res x3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
CatLeap 2560x1440 + Acer hn274h bmiiid 120hz 3D Logitech G19 Corsair Ax1200 watts  Mountain Mods Ascension 
MouseAudio
Logitech M570 Pioneer SP-BS21 Bookshelf Loudspeakers + Lepai Amp 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
Vishera Fan Boi Slayer
(19 items)
  		  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
i7 3770k 5.2ghz  GIGABYTE G1 Assassin Sniper 3 7950 with Alphacool block 7950 w/ Alphacool Block 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveCooling
7950 w/ Alphacool block G.SKILL Trident X 2500mhz 2x4gb SanDisk Extreme 240gb sata III 6gbs x5 SwiftTech Apongee Drive II 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Monsta 360 86mm thick rad X 4 MCP 35X Pump x2 400ML Frozen Q Fusion res x3 Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
CatLeap 2560x1440 + Acer hn274h bmiiid 120hz 3D Logitech G19 Corsair Ax1200 watts  Mountain Mods Ascension 
MouseAudio
Logitech M570 Pioneer SP-BS21 Bookshelf Loudspeakers + Lepai Amp 
View all
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: NVIDIA
Overclock.net › Forums › Graphics Cards › NVIDIA › I have lost faith in Portable PC Gaming. Real shame Nvidia.