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post #51 of 116
11/12/12 at 1:17am
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It physically will only go in 1 way. This isnt the type of cooler you can really improperly install
There are a few ways of improper installation of the cooler.
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11/12/12 at 1:23am
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Really.... I just looked at the instructions when I put it together and its kinda one of those ones ya gotta have all the right pieces in the right spot turned facing the right way etc
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11/12/12 at 2:11pm
How about thermal paste application? You sure you did that correctly?
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11/12/12 at 2:19pm
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@ Cheer, there isnt too many variables that effect temps, 80c on Prime is too high.

Its either your heat sink isn't seated properly, the TIM application was inccorect (as suggested by BiG StroOnZ), your HS fan is running too slowly or you Vcore / CPU clock is too high.

Id suggest you pull down your Heat sink, reapply the paste and make sure your HS fan is running at full speed. Once that is done, we can eliminate that from the trouble shooting list.

I understand this is a PITA but its the only way to make sure the hardware side isn't effecting your performance.

You can check your CPU HS fan in BIOS,,, what fan are you using BTW?
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11/12/12 at 2:24pm
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My heatsink has 2 fans. Its the Noctua NH-D14. As for the paste. I used the paste that came with the heatsink. When I put the paste on. I made sure that it covered the whole area of the chip.... when I put the heatsink on. I made sure that the paste didnt ooze off the sides onto the board and that its only on the chip. As for the fan speed, I think this is the part that can be troubleshot best. I think my fan speed only tops out at 1200 RPMish... I think it should be able to go faster than that.... but according to my boards configurations both in the utility and in the bios, it seems to be the case that 1200RPM is the top speed. But I have a hard time believing that given the fact that I have had fan speeds on other processors from previous rigs top out at 5000RPM... That being said, I dont want to go up to 5000RPM because then my rig will sound like a helicopter.... though I would like to know how to get higher than 1200RPM... preferably 2000RPM or even 2500 if i had to. I think that would make a huge difference in temperature
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11/12/12 at 2:32pm
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My heatsink has 2 fans. Its the Noctua NH-D14. As for the paste. I used the paste that came with the heatsink. When I put the paste on. I made sure that it covered the whole area of the chip.... when I put the heatsink on. I made sure that the paste didnt ooze off the sides onto the board and that its only on the chip. As for the fan speed, I think this is the part that can be troubleshot best. I think my fan speed only tops out at 1200 RPMish... I think it should be able to go faster than that.... but according to my boards configurations both in the utility and in the bios, it seems to be the case that 1200RPM is the top speed. But I have a hard time believing that given the fact that I have had fan speeds on other processors from previous rigs top out at 5000RPM... That being said, I dont want to go up to 5000RPM because then my rig will sound like a helicopter.... though I would like to know how to get higher than 1200RPM... preferably 2000RPM or even 2500 if i had to. I think that would make a huge difference in temperature

According to the specs, you have a 120mm fan (outside the HS) and a 140mm fan in the middle. They are rated at 1200 -1300 rpm

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1801/6/

They seem a little slow to me but I cant imagine Noctura doing that if it didnt work. Can you ramp them up to 1300 rpm?

TIM - when you say you covered the entire chip, was it a thick or thin smear... the stuff isnt spak filler tongue.gif Less is more with TIM.
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11/12/12 at 2:36pm
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Well typically when you put paste between 2 flat platforms, the paste will spread for obvious reasons.... I put a dab and just spread it around the chip .... then i put the heatsink on and applied pressure.... then when I removed the heatsink I noticed the paste had spread a bit on the chip but still didnt cover the whole area.... so i just used my finger to spread it around a bit more myself to cover the whole area.... then i put the heatsink on and locked it in place. It hasnt oozed off the side of the chip onto the board
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11/12/12 at 3:21pm
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Well typically when you put paste between 2 flat platforms, the paste will spread for obvious reasons.... I put a dab and just spread it around the chip .... then i put the heatsink on and applied pressure.... then when I removed the heatsink I noticed the paste had spread a bit on the chip but still didnt cover the whole area.... so i just used my finger to spread it around a bit more myself to cover the whole area.... then i put the heatsink on and locked it in place. It hasnt oozed off the side of the chip onto the board

What did you spread it with the first time?

You removed the HS and respread the existing TIM with your finger?

No, just no...

If you are going to spread it, you will need a flat surface like a credit card and you really should not go spreading around used paste with your uncovered finger.

Id suggest you reapply fresh TIM and see how you go.

When you re-seat the HS, can you pls take a couple of pics of the HS base and the CPU die before you clean it. Id be interested to see the sort of spread you got with that application.

Rubbing alcohol is good for cleaning off TIM... coffee filters too smile.gif
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11/12/12 at 3:25pm
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Thats all a huge hassle.... I dont know what TIM stands for.... Also, how you spread it shouldnt matter because the result will be the same once you plant the HS on it anyway, it will spread naturally to the edges anyway in the same way.
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11/12/12 at 3:39pm
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Thats all a huge hassle.... I dont know what TIM stands for.... Also, how you spread it shouldnt matter because the result will be the same once you plant the HS on it anyway, it will spread naturally to the edges anyway in the same way.

TIM = Thermal Inferface Material.

No, it does matter. The idea of TIM is to conduct heat effecienty. It does this by filling the micro nooks and crannies of both the CPU die and HS.

Using you finger adds oils and micro debris that interfers with this process leaving bubbles and dead spots. Using previously used and activated TIM doesnt help this process either.

Yes, its is a hugh hassle but you came here looking for advice. Im not saying this will cure your performance woes but it will sure help in the long run.
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