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What the hell is up with these bench marks? 7950??

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The majority of bench marking sites I go to have the 7950 and 7970 scoring so low. Was this because at launch they had a lot of driver issues and the most recent tests are showing their true potential because for example here Tom's Hardware benchmark has the card doing extremely well here cards, yet I haven't seen that repeated across A LOT of bench marking and reviews.

Crysis 2: It just inches ahead of the 7870 here

Skyirm: A discontinued card does just as well! here's the benchmark

Now is that because the 6990's were dual gpu cards and the 7950/7990 are single gpu cards? But still isn't the 7800 series the 69** just updated a bit? Is there any point buying 7950 when the next gen cards are around the corner? I was originally really set on getting two 7950's in crossfire x but then I just started reading all these benchmarks. I guess you can't xfire the older cards due to the incompatibility of quad gpus for games.

In fact in all the reviews the 660 and the 670's seem to roflstomp the 7950:

670 benchmarks (compared to 7950) May this year
660 TI benchmarks (compared to 7950) August this year


Lastly a comparison of 7950 and 7970 OC and stock against other cards both Nvidia and ATI but what they leave out are the 670 and 680's!
Overall rating and are comparing these cards to a year old card, while I understand this came out in January 2012 my question is how much has changed since then?

Three reviews January, May and August 2012. On BF3 they score (OC) by average frames per second 72-80-74 between May and August did the 7950 have a stroke or something? Am I just wasting my money no matter what GPU I get because from what it seems with ATI the next GPU is just going to be a dual core? So I'm better off just getting the cheapest card available and then buying a nice dual core GPU every 2nd year?

More NVidia benchmarks.
660 in september 2012 7950 and 7970 aren't tested against
680 in October 2012 7950 and 7970 are included

What a surprise the 7950 seems to again have had a stroke. AVG fps in BF3 from January to October this year are as follows.
72-80-74-65
The links (Janurary to now)
  1. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1392/pg5/sapphire-radeon-7950-overclock-edition-vs-7970-oc-vs-gtx-580-oc-vs-6970-oc-review-battlefield-3.html
  2. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1494/pg7/nvidia-geforce-gtx-670-graphics-card-review-overclocked-editions-battlefield-3.html]670%20benchmarks%20
  3. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1552/pg7/nvidia-geforce-gtx-660-ti-overclocked-graphics-card-review-battlefield-3.html]660 TI benchmarks
  4. http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1593/pg5/inno3d-gtx-680-ichill-black-edition-and-gtx-660-ti-ichill-graphics-card-review-gaming-at-1920x1080.html

Can someone explain this to me? Both the 7950 and the 7970 are being outmatched by their counterparts GTX 660 and GTX 670

I can afford any 7950,7990,680,670,660 and obviously any cheaper cards than those. I just want maximum performance for my buck. I would rather have one card or a dual gpu card but I don't want to xfire due to the extra cost of water cooling it and maintaining it. In the future I will upgrade to two GPU's but I'm not sure which at the moment/

I've had my heart set on the 7950 but it seems that it's being outclassed and outperformed by all it's counterparts which are marginally more expensive.

You know it could be that hardware heaven are just extremely biased toward which ever card they are reviewing, because I've never seen a bad review for their review cards. That and they always match them against lesser cards.

let me know what you guys think?
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if you plan on buying a 79X0 series card you have to be planning to overclock it as well, that's the trouble with reviews. I'm not going to claim any numbers or x card is better but most of these reviews are based off stock clocks 880/1050 for a 7950 for example now my 7950 out of the box does 1100/1550 with the stock vcore out of the box. The nvidia card's can not touch the same percent of overclock the 79X0 series can. Where the 79X0 series really pulls ahead is higher resolutions as well the higher you go the more you notice the amd's pull ahead.

When i finally made up my mind on which gpu I was going to purchase I had to start searching for overclocked reviews otherwise the numbers are screwed, back when I looked at it the 7950 was about par with gtx 670 and the 7970 was trading blows with the 680's now this was back in sep so things could of changed with drivers but I know now the nvidia cards are crippled unless you can manage to find one of the old with unlocked voltage.

edit: before it gets mentioned the reviews there do say 7950 oc editions but there just factory overclocked cards most likely doing 950/1200 (this was one of the two sapphire overclocks from newegg, reviews said they used a sapphire OC)

edit2: Don't really care for this review but this shows the 660ti, 670 and 7950 all OC tested against each other aug 23rd REVIEW
Edited by mr. biggums - 11/12/12 at 1:33am
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AMD's drivers have had significant improvements. The 12.7 beta released in late June and 12.11 beta released in late Oct brought huge improvements. Even before 12.11 beta HD 7950 (1.2 Ghz) was faster than GTX 670 and GTX 660 Ti at 1.3 Ghz . Now the gap has increased even more.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/08/23/galaxy_gtx_660_ti_gc_oc_vs_670_hd_7950/2

HD 7950(1.15 Ghz) is going to be faster than GTX 680 (1.25 Ghz) across a wide range of games. here is some feedback from GTX 680 users

http://www.overclock.net/t/1318674/tpu-amd-announces-never-settle-catalyst-12-11-driver-update/150#post_18428759

http://www.overclock.net/t/1323637/7950b-vs-gtx-670-ftw#post_18526185

http://www.overclock.net/t/1323637/7950b-vs-gtx-670-ftw#post_18526185

HD 7950 is the best card for raw performance and value for your money. Don't hesitate. Get the Sapphire HD 7950 boost with dual x cooler or Gigabyte HD 7950 OC with windforce3x cooler and overclock that beast. thumb.gif
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