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11/12/12 at 11:34am
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http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2012-11-12_haiku_release_1_alpha_4
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The Haiku Project is excited to announce the availability of our fourth official alpha release. A year and four months have passed since the Alpha 3 and the Haiku Project has been busy. The main purpose of this release is to provide interested third party developers with a stable version for testing and development. To aid with that, Haiku includes a rich set of development tools.

This release features many improvements across the board, including:

Bugs – Over 1000 bugs have been fixed since the alpha 3 release.
Debugging – New native Debugger application. Ability to generate QR codes in KDL.
File System – BFS is more robust. Improved NTFS support. Better Blu-ray Disc support.
Hardware – Improved USB OHCI Drivers. Improved CPU identification.
Localization – Improved translations. New keymap switcher application.
Multimedia – New 10-band equalizer.
Networking – Improved network card drivers. New pcnet driver. Early IPv6 support.
OpenGL Kit – Mesa updated to 7.8.2 for gcc2, and 8.1.0-devel for gcc4.
System – Improved virtual memory settings and swap file creation logic.
Video – Support for most Radeon HD chips as well as Intel Extreme chipsets.
Wireless – WPA/WPA2 support. Improved wireless card drivers.
For more about R1 Alpha 4, visit www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku/release-notes

Haiku R1 Alpha 4 availability

Download - disk images (USB, CD, virtualization) at www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku
Purchase - commemorative CDs from www.haiku-inc.org/order-disc.html
About Haiku

The Haiku Project is a volunteer based initiative and was started on August 18th, 2001. The goal of the project is to develop and promote the adoption of Haiku, an open source, general purpose operating system. Haiku adopts design concepts from the BeOS® and takes it to the next level by infusing those concepts with recent advances in technology.

We would like to thank all donors enabling development contracts funded through Haiku, Inc. and Haikuware's bounty program, the HSA for organizing the BeGeistert conferences, and Google's Summer of Code and Google Code-in programs.



Give Haiku a whirl today, see what you think and discover what you have been missing!

I posted this here becuase its the only FOSS section of overclock.net. If you give it a test drive and hit a bug, please submit a bug report !!
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11/12/12 at 12:30pm
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http://www.haiku-os.org/news/2012-11-12_haiku_release_1_alpha_4
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The Haiku Project is excited to announce the availability of our fourth official alpha release. A year and four months have passed since the Alpha 3 and the Haiku Project has been busy. The main purpose of this release is to provide interested third party developers with a stable version for testing and development. To aid with that, Haiku includes a rich set of development tools.

This release features many improvements across the board, including:

Bugs – Over 1000 bugs have been fixed since the alpha 3 release.
Debugging – New native Debugger application. Ability to generate QR codes in KDL.
File System – BFS is more robust. Improved NTFS support. Better Blu-ray Disc support.
Hardware – Improved USB OHCI Drivers. Improved CPU identification.
Localization – Improved translations. New keymap switcher application.
Multimedia – New 10-band equalizer.
Networking – Improved network card drivers. New pcnet driver. Early IPv6 support.
OpenGL Kit – Mesa updated to 7.8.2 for gcc2, and 8.1.0-devel for gcc4.
System – Improved virtual memory settings and swap file creation logic.
Video – Support for most Radeon HD chips as well as Intel Extreme chipsets.
Wireless – WPA/WPA2 support. Improved wireless card drivers.
For more about R1 Alpha 4, visit www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku/release-notes

Haiku R1 Alpha 4 availability

Download - disk images (USB, CD, virtualization) at www.haiku-os.org/get-haiku
Purchase - commemorative CDs from www.haiku-inc.org/order-disc.html
About Haiku

The Haiku Project is a volunteer based initiative and was started on August 18th, 2001. The goal of the project is to develop and promote the adoption of Haiku, an open source, general purpose operating system. Haiku adopts design concepts from the BeOS® and takes it to the next level by infusing those concepts with recent advances in technology.

We would like to thank all donors enabling development contracts funded through Haiku, Inc. and Haikuware's bounty program, the HSA for organizing the BeGeistert conferences, and Google's Summer of Code and Google Code-in programs.



Give Haiku a whirl today, see what you think and discover what you have been missing!

I posted this here becuase its the only FOSS section of overclock.net. If you give it a test drive and hit a bug, please submit a bug report !!

interesting. so not linux? is it still unix-like? never heard of it.
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11/12/12 at 12:50pm
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interesting. so not linux? is it still unix-like? never heard of it.
Been around quite a while.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiku_%28operating_system%29
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11/12/12 at 1:27pm
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interesting. so not linux? is it still unix-like? never heard of it.


Not Linux,Not a linux kernel, no linux drivers etc, actually they use bsd network drivers, still a bit unixy in some ways, but cleaner and leaner in many others. Take Unix, start with a fresh sheet of paper, make the design desktop centric, toss legacy garbage, and intergrate everything from the word Go, and you get BeOS, Haiku aims to re-implement BeOS with updates in design, functionality etc.The BFS fielsystem is awesome.
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11/12/12 at 1:34pm
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interesting. so not linux? is it still unix-like? never heard of it.


Not Linux,Not a linux kernel, no linux drivers etc, actually they use bsd network drivers, still a bit unixy in some ways, but cleaner and leaner in many others. Take Unix, start with a fresh sheet of paper, make the design desktop centric, toss legacy garbage, and intergrate everything from the word Go, and you get BeOS, Haiku aims to re-implement BeOS with updates in design, functionality etc.The BFS fielsystem is awesome.

cool. I'll have to try it
Edited by jrl1357 - 11/12/12 at 1:39pm
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11/12/12 at 6:44pm
It's fantastically stable and fluid for being still labeled as an alpha release. Although I don't see myself running it personally, I'm sure fans of BeOS will greatly enjoy it.
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11/13/12 at 1:34pm
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interesting. so not linux? is it still unix-like? never heard of it.

Haiku is a BeOS clone. BeOS was an awesome OS back in the late 90s but sadly died a death around 2000. BeOS was also largely POSIX so quite Unix-like at times. Not too sure how closely Haiku has followed those paradigms as it's been a few years since I've used it.

To be frank, I never really liked Haiku much even though BeOS is one of my all time favourite OSs. In fact Haiku wasn't even my favourite BeOS clone. But this is going back a few years now and things change so I might give this new alpha a try and see how it performs smile.gif
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11/13/12 at 1:39pm
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Not Linux,Not a linux kernel, no linux drivers etc, actually they use bsd network drivers, still a bit unixy in some ways, but cleaner and leaner in many others. Take Unix, start with a fresh sheet of paper, make the design desktop centric, toss legacy garbage, and intergrate everything from the word Go, and you get BeOS, Haiku aims to re-implement BeOS with updates in design, functionality etc.The BFS fielsystem is awesome.

I think you're abusing the term Unix there; particularly given this is a FOSS forum so members should know the difference between POSIX and Unix. BeOS was partially POSIX compliant, but BeOS was never based on Unix (code nor otherwise) and never intended to be a Unix clone. Quite the contrary, BeOS was intended more as a different take on Mac OS.

As for the BSD drivers, it's FreeBSD specifically is it not? I can't recall exactly, but I thought it was more than just network drivers that were supported? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different OS. Either way, I wish more OS's shared drivers frown.gif
Edited by Plan9 - 11/13/12 at 1:42pm
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11/13/12 at 9:19pm
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I think you're abusing the term Unix there; particularly given this is a FOSS forum so members should know the difference between POSIX and Unix. BeOS was partially POSIX compliant, but BeOS was never based on Unix (code nor otherwise) and never intended to be a Unix clone. Quite the contrary, BeOS was intended more as a different take on Mac OS.
As for the BSD drivers, it's FreeBSD specifically is it not? I can't recall exactly, but I thought it was more than just network drivers that were supported? Or maybe I'm thinking of a different OS. Either way, I wish more OS's shared drivers frown.gif

they use BSD network drivers

as to the unix comment, I didn't say haiku or beos were a unix "you'd need unix/linux or MAS OSX etc" to be a unix, but it does share some concepts with unix, elf binary formats, posix compliance "of which haiku far surpasses beos" and so on. It also offer terminal services etc. If you liked BeOS so much, you should love Haiku, it is superior to BeOS in almost everway I can think of. Needs a bit more debugging and optimization, but I think those changes will start happening once they get the packagae management in place and start the beta cycle. If all goes well, that could happen late spring of next year.

Oh, and so far, the Haiku Mode setting radeon HD driver, works so much better then the windows and linux counter parts, its kind of embarrassing.

and many people abuse the term unix, its more of a certification then a actuall operating system.
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11/14/12 at 1:34am
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they use BSD network drivers
Well yes, you said that already. However that doesn't actually answer my question as there's several BSDs in active development and they don't all share driver compatibility.

I'd wager it would be FreeBSD though.
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as to the unix comment, I didn't say haiku or beos were a unix "you'd need unix/linux or MAS OSX etc" to be a unix, but it does share some concepts with unix, elf binary formats, posix compliance "of which haiku far surpasses beos" and so on.
I appreciate you didn't say that, but your post was a little ambiguous with the way you referenced to Unix when Haiku / BeOS was really just aiming for a degree of POSIX compliance. Given that most people on here should be familiar with POSIX, I thought it was probably worth clarifying things a little.

Also, I believe ELF is part of POSIX. In fact quite a number of Unix concepts are. POSIX and Unix certification are largely based on each other (I forget which came first though). It's just ones an open specification (like LSB) and the other is proprietary.
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It also offer terminal services etc.
So does nearly every OS.
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If you liked BeOS so much, you should love Haiku, it is superior to BeOS in almost everway I can think of. Needs a bit more debugging and optimization, but I think those changes will start happening once they get the packagae management in place and start the beta cycle. If all goes well, that could happen late spring of next year.
Cool, I will do then
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and many people abuse the term unix, its more of a certification then a actuall operating system.
These days that's largely right, but there is (or rather was) an OS. UNIX (trademarked in upper case) is an OS, Unix Certification (title case) is a certification. However Unix Certification is a very strict process (to the point where the same OS compiled for AMD64 would need to be re-certified even if the i686 counterpart was already accredited) and a proprietary certification at that. So most people just go for POSIX compliance instead.

This is why I made the distinction about Haiku / BeOS being partially POSIX compliant rather than "based on Unix". It might seem like nitpicking, but I wasn't having a dig at what you wrote, I just didn't want your post to be misinterpreted by others thinking BeOS was an ancestor of UNIX like FreeBSD and Solaris are.
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