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Gamertags were around longer than xbox, they were called "names". Crazy, I know:P
Also, achievements aren't really an achievement (get it?). They're useless:P

Achievements are no more useless than games themselves. In this sense, both are useless with the exception of having fun. Neither the game nor the achievements will accomplish anything else. They both have the exact same purpose, and just because some people don't care for something, doesn't mean it's useless. I know there are a few games that I played much longer than I originally would have if they didn't have achievements. I will agree though that many games out there do achievements wrong just in an attempt to make people play their game for thousands of hours, and it makes people care less about achievements even when they are done right.
Edited by Murlocke - 11/12/12 at 9:41pm
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He was chosen to lead the Windows development team because of his proven track record of delivering Office with quality and on time, and he proved his worth by delivering a solid Windows 7 on time. This time though he failed.
He even failed on his previous credit of delivering Office on time, I mean, how messed up can a fundamental product release be when Surface RT is launching with a Preview version of Office 2013 Home and Student (it's not even the full Office suite, so it should have been ready on time), which, according to reports, will only ship in the final version in January ? Windows 8 in general and the unfinished nature of the OS, noted by anyone who witnessed the many changes to the still unfinshed Modern UI over the three preview versions, along with reviews of the RTM (see the Ars Technica one, for example) detailling many unfinished aspects of the UI and the bundled apps, not to mention Intel CEO's remarks about it, must have been the cause of his sudden departure. There is no other explanation. This is too all of a sudden for it to have any other explanation.
I'm still waiting to know how many million copies they are going to sell in the first month and in the holiday season. (Yes, I know they have sold at least 4 million copies until now)

Get your facts straight before posting. Office 2013 RT was updated to RTM prior to the 10/26 Windows 8 launch. Windows 8 and Windows RT are awesome and a significant improvement to Windows 7 in virtually every way, as is Server 2012. Fortunately, stubborn people that frequent PC gaming forums represent a very vocal, yet vast minority of users.

Everybody on my college campus I've spoken to that has used Windows 8 loves it, especially on the touch enabled devices, as do the majority of students within the IT college.
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It is pretty clear what happen, you screw up a launch, you are asked to leave. Windows 8 is, from purely a product point of view, a mess.

Surface tablet, might, if extremely lucky, clear 2 million tablets in 2 months. Apple will sale about 10 million tablets in 2 months. Nexus 7 will sale about 3 million tablets in 2 months.

Feed back as not be "overwhelmingly" good for windows 8, in fact most people just are not buy it. Most honest reviewers will tell you, if you like windows 7, there is no reason to upgrade to windows 8. And there is no reason to upgrade to windows 8. Microsoft tried to create a solution when there was no problem.

After using it on a touch tablet, I can say I do not hate windows 8, but I see no reason for upgrading. Just nothing to write home about.
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Get your facts straight before posting. Office 2013 RT was updated to RTM prior to the 10/26 Windows 8 launch. Windows 8 and Windows RT are awesome and a significant improvement to Windows 7 in virtually every way, as is Server 2012. Fortunately, stubborn people that frequent PC gaming forums represent a very vocal, yet vast minority of users.
Everybody on my college campus I've spoken to that has used Windows 8 loves it, especially on the touch enabled devices, as do the majority of students within the IT college.

What improvements? Name one thing that windows 8 can do that is windows 7 can't. Almost anything you do with windows 8 you can do with windows 7. Windows 8 is just windows 7 for a tablet.
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What improvements? Name one thing that windows 8 can do that is windows 7 can't. Almost anything you do with windows 8 you can do with windows 7. Windows 8 is just windows 7 for a tablet.

You just contradicted yourself right there. Windows 8 is easily usable on a tablet or any touch interface, while Windows 7 isn't.

There's improved memory management and improved memory security (both non-visible improvements), as well as many other under-the-hood improvements to speed it up and make it more secure.

Also, it's far too early to determine whether or not Windows 8 is a screw-up. It's a new UI, of course a lot of people are initially not going to like it. However, it is not a failure upon launch like Maps was, it's just something different. Something different requires time to determine whether it's a failure or success.
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UI is still important although subjective. Otherwise everyone would be perfectly fine running a lighter, command line interface environment like Server Core.
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I edited my original post but I think I will have to spell it out for those who take every single god forsaken thread about Microsoft and use it to hit Win8 or the Win8 H8rs over the head. People at the company didn't like his style of leadership. Story over.
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Good, glad he left. If he was indeed responsible for the launch of windows 8, then he SHOULD leave the company. Windows 8 was too radical a change from previous versions of windows for me, and I hate every aspect of it on a computer that is not a tablet or phone. Specially hate the fact that with most laptops that have a dedicated radeon graphics card like a 6770m , it's not compatible with windows 8. Lots of bullcrap you have to deal with to get some of your hardware to work right with it, just to be able to even game on it ( I understand that alot of it has to do with the manufacturer, but still... I'm irritiated that I wasted 14.99 for this upgrade, and hopefully soon, I can get a refund. Guess i'll be waiting to see if windows 9 is any better, and if not, then I guess i'll have to quit using a computer all together, because I refuse to give into uncomfortable, and radical changes to a major OS, that is used by millions of people. To do this to their customers is absolutley asinine. Ohh, and lets not offer windows media center for free anymore, and let's start to CHARGE people for it... I could go on, and on about perfectly logical, and genuine reasons, and concerns supporting my opinion on why I hate windows 8, but i'll jsut stop here and state that I wish the man good luck, on other job ventures, and hope he isn't the one who messes up perfectly functioning products, that have no reason to changeso drastically/ end rant.
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What improvements? Name one thing that windows 8 can do that is windows 7 can't. Almost anything you do with windows 8 you can do with windows 7. Windows 8 is just windows 7 for a tablet.

Name me one thing that Windows 7 did that Vista couldn't do that any normal user would use especially with later SP's before 7 was released.

Exactly, there is really nothing that any normal user would use differently. When you look at it all the majority of people do is surf the web and store music/pictures/etc... Your point is very moot. Most people shouldn't have upgraded from Windows 95 (ok that's a little extreme) but honestly 95% of people didn't need to change from XP be honest if you're just going from a functionality standpoint.
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What improvements? Name one thing that windows 8 can do that is windows 7 can't. Almost anything you do with windows 8 you can do with windows 7. Windows 8 is just windows 7 for a tablet.

Most improvements come in the form of an enhancement to something that already existed, so you're initial premise is flawed. Nevertheless, in Windows 8, with a single keystroke, you can access the following (not an exhaustive list):

Programs and Features
Event Viewer
System Settings
Device Manager
Computer Management
Disk Management
Command Prompt
Control Panel

Most of which is not possible on Windows 7.
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