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Hello
Anyone here running HD650s with Xonar ST/STX?

Any issues or problems? I listen to music pretty much every second im on my computer and looking to upgrade my aging HD555s with some 650s

PS: Anyone know any places where to start looking for the 650s within a reasonable price range. A bit inclined to pay $400.. Unless there is a superior alternative to HD650s at their price range.
Thanks.
Edited by L36 - 11/12/12 at 6:10pm
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post #2 of 37
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Originally Posted by L36 View Post

PS: Anyone know any places where to start looking for the 650s within a reasonable price range. A bit inclined to pay $400.. Unless there is a superior alternative to HD650s at their price range.
Thanks.

the HD650's dropped down to $400 on Amazon this morning, but it looks like they've gone up to $480 now ($500 being the norm). you can keep an eye out at places like razordogdeals etc. but typically the instant rebates don't apply to Sennheiser products. only other route that i know of is to buy used, which is what i've done. i have a "Like New" pair coming to me from DAHMART through Amazon. if you keep an eye on the for sale forum at head-fi they spring up from time to time, usually for $300-$350. i recently *just* missed 2 different pairs for $300 on head-fi. got sick of waiting, pulled the trigger at Amazon for a used pair.
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The HD650s I've seen typically go for about $280 used on Head-Fi. Also, the Xonar ST/STX is just not enough to bring out the best from the HD650. The 650 is a headphone that scales well with a good source (the Xonar will suffice for that purpose) and great amplification (which the Xonar isn't great at). The Xonar will make it sound cold and uncontrolled because there's just not enough power behind it to do the HD650 justice.
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So i should invest into an external amp to get the most of em? I was hoping the on board amp on my ST would do enough...
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the Xonar Essence ST/X should drive the Sennheiser HD600, HD650 and any of the Beyerdynamic 600 ohm headphones just fine. if you don't like the sound you can try changing the op-amps.
    
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post #6 of 37
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the Xonar Essence ST/X should drive the Sennheiser HD600, HD650 and any of the Beyerdynamic 600 ohm headphones just fine. if you don't like the sound you can try changing the op-amps.
I already swapped my OP-amps with LME49860NA
From stock, the sound difference was a huge step up. Il look up Beyerdynamic for their headphone line. Thanks.
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post #7 of 37
I like a tube amp between my STX and 650s.
 
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post #8 of 37
Quote:
Originally Posted by ramicio View Post

I like a tube amp between my STX and 650s.

I agree with this. The ST has a great dac in it but the Amp is really not enough. I really liked the sound of my 650s when I had them with my little dot over my O2, same thing goes for my Q701s, some headphones just sound better on a tube amp. For some reason a lot of users are against tube amps here but I guess it's because this is a technical forum and we look at the raw data of electronics.
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tons of people say the HD650's sound phenomenal with a tube amp. i think most people are against tube amps because they are like a hardware EQ with only one setting. i'm one of the scientifically-minded people that believe in the raw data and transparent source/amp components. but...i've never listened to a tube amp. so what good is my opinion tongue.gif
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It's impossible to do blind tests, too. It's a completely subjective experience. The facts say a tube sounds different than a transistor, and it does. There are emotions in both camps of things. I tend to find the scientifically minded people to be irrationally emotional, because they will say that because the numbers say this, that it sounds bad, and that everything and everyone is the same and must feel the same. The "irrational" people they quote as being pseudoscientific are perfectly happy just coming to the "different strokes" conclusion.

If one is serious about music on high-end headphones one should at least give a tube amp a try.
 
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