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Building my first low budget gaming rig~~Help Needed!!!!

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Hello everyone,

As you can tell from my number of posts, I'm new to this forum. I'm also completely new to the world of "building your own gaming PC." I've been doing some research for a little while now, and I think I'm about ready to put things into motion, but I wanted to get feedback/suggestions before I went ahead and spent money.

I am working with a very tight budget ($350 MAX) and I've seen posts similar to this one involving decent (as in fuctioning) builds for this price, but none of them involving all of the parts I'm looking into purchasing. I also have some concerns about this particular combination of hardware that I haven't really seen clear answers for. Anyway, without further adieu, here is my prospective build:

CPU- AMD A10-5800k APU ($130)
MoBo- MSI FM2-A75-E35 ($50)
PSU- Rosewill RD700 700W ATX12V V2.3 PSU ($60)
HDD- (haven't picked one out, but trying to get an SSD w/ SATA 6gb/s for the faster speed)
RAM- Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 ($44.95 after a 10% discount I have; I picked this ram because it got decent ratings on memorybenchmark)
CASE- Thermaltake Armor A90 Gaming Chassis (I already bought this on sale for $40)


Right now, I can get the APU/PSU in a combo on newegg and save myself $18, or a APU/MoBo combo for a $12 savings if I can get a better PSU for cheaper.


I mainly plan on using this PC for running video game emulators and doing audio recording, but I would also like to be able to play some current PC games as well (Skyrim, Guild Wars 2, etc) if possible.

As far as the emulators are concerned, I've heard that the more recent generation consoles have very demanding system requirements (see PCSX2 for reference).

...Okay...onto my concerns.

1.) Overclocking the APU/MoBo/Ram will obviously give me the best performance I can get out of this setup, but will I be safe with the stock fans in the APU/Case?

2.) The MoBo supports 2133mHz ram when overclocked, but what about the APU? Would I be better off sticking with 1866 ram and just overclocking that, or can I eventually ugrade?
There's an article about the A10-5800k NEEDING fast ram in order to keep up, so this is a big concern of mine.

3.) Adding up the costs, I'm pretty much at my price limit, and I haven't even picked a hdd yet. I'm hoping I can add some cash back by picking a different PSU.


Guys, PLEASE help me with this. I'm not expecting a super computer or anything, I just want it to meet my needs, and stay within the price range I can afford. I am a complete newbie when it comes to all of this, so please keep that in mind when responding to my post smile.gif
post #2 of 110
that psu is EXTREME overkill, correct me if I'm wrong, but without a GPU, you need less that 100w, and even with, a discrete GPU that supports dual graphics with that chip, you're gonna need 250W max. Sorry I cant reccomend one, though, PSUs aren''t my thing.
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I would suggest a better board. MSI AMD boards are not so good.... and it looks like that board have a weak power delivery system. IMO
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Haha, yeah, I figured it was. I didn't know how much wattage I would need for this system overclocked. Also, my original build was going to accommodate a discrete graphics card at a later time to run in crossfire with the iGPU, but I have since discovered that crossfire pretty much does nothing to boost the graphics capability of this APU. Thanks for the verification.
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I agree. Ditch the 700w psu, and go with something in the 400w range (example: Rosewill RG430. Or, you can get the CX430 for $20 after a $20 mir and $5 promo (which ends today). I have used the CX430 in multiple client builds and all are running great (and I got back all 3 mirs).

You will have plenty of power for emulators. Big titles will have some issues - even at low settings. You can however add a 6670 in the future to get some very respectable fps for the $$
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Also, will you be overclocking this APU?
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post #7 of 110
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Originally Posted by Testier View Post

I would suggest a better board. MSI AMD boards are not so good.... and it looks like that board have a weak power delivery system. IMO

The reason why I picked this board was because it includes all the features I'm looking for: HDMI, USB 3.0, SATA 6gb/s support, at a price point I can work with.

Do you have any suggestions?
post #8 of 110
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Also, will you be overclocking this APU?

I was going to see what kind of performance I could get without OCing the APU first, and then OC as needed.
post #9 of 110
idk.... do you plan on upgrading the system throughout its life????

the PSU is an easy part to skimp on but I almost NEVER recommend doing so, if you do it right and buy a good one the first time it can last through many builds and upgrades (much like a case) where as if you go for a 400w its not going to be great and wont handle much of anything as far as upgrading a gaming rig goes so you will HAVE to replace that in the future before you do anything else
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Originally Posted by Badwrench View Post

Ditch the 700w psu, and go with something in the 400w range (example: Rosewill RG430. Or, you can get the CX430 for $20 after a $20 mir and $5 promo (which ends today). I have used the CX430 in multiple client builds and all are running great (and I got back all 3 mirs).
You will have plenty of power for emulators. Big titles will have some issues - even at low settings. You can however add a 6670 in the future to get some very respectable fps for the $$

Thanks for the suggestions thumb.gif
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