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Oh, and go for a CPU+GPU setup if you wanna play modern games on visually still pleasing settings thumb.gif
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Hello everyone,

As you can tell from my number of posts, I'm new to this forum. I'm also completely new to the world of "building your own gaming PC." I've been doing some research for a little while now, and I think I'm about ready to put things into motion, but I wanted to get feedback/suggestions before I went ahead and spent money.

I am working with a very tight budget ($350 MAX) and I've seen posts similar to this one involving decent (as in fuctioning) builds for this price, but none of them involving all of the parts I'm looking into purchasing. I also have some concerns about this particular combination of hardware that I haven't really seen clear answers for. Anyway, without further adieu, here is my prospective build:

CPU- AMD A10-5800k APU ($130)
MoBo- MSI FM2-A75-E35 ($50)
PSU- Rosewill RD700 700W ATX12V V2.3 PSU ($60)
HDD- (haven't picked one out, but trying to get an SSD w/ SATA 6gb/s for the faster speed)
RAM- Kingston HyperX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 1866 ($44.95 after a 10% discount I have; I picked this ram because it got decent ratings on memorybenchmark)
CASE- Thermaltake Armor A90 Gaming Chassis (I already bought this on sale for $40)


Right now, I can get the APU/PSU in a combo on newegg and save myself $18, or a APU/MoBo combo for a $12 savings if I can get a better PSU for cheaper.


I mainly plan on using this PC for running video game emulators and doing audio recording, but I would also like to be able to play some current PC games as well (Skyrim, Guild Wars 2, etc) if possible.

As far as the emulators are concerned, I've heard that the more recent generation consoles have very demanding system requirements (see PCSX2 for reference).

...Okay...onto my concerns.

1.) Overclocking the APU/MoBo/Ram will obviously give me the best performance I can get out of this setup, but will I be safe with the stock fans in the APU/Case?

2.) The MoBo supports 2133mHz ram when overclocked, but what about the APU? Would I be better off sticking with 1866 ram and just overclocking that, or can I eventually ugrade?
There's an article about the A10-5800k NEEDING fast ram in order to keep up, so this is a big concern of mine.

3.) Adding up the costs, I'm pretty much at my price limit, and I haven't even picked a hdd yet. I'm hoping I can add some cash back by picking a different PSU.


Guys, PLEASE help me with this. I'm not expecting a super computer or anything, I just want it to meet my needs, and stay within the price range I can afford. I am a complete newbie when it comes to all of this, so please keep that in mind when responding to my post smile.gif

You need a quality board that has

1. Heatsinked mosfets (VRMs)
2. A good number of phases

SO THAT: You can overclock higher than a poor overclocking board without it getting throttled.

Drop that MSI Board.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007625%20600370105&IsNodeId=1&name=FM2&Order=PRICE&Pagesize=100
List:
first look around, these look ok
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157342
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157341
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138366 (heatsinked 4 phases but i'd be willing to go for this one cause biostar is known to have higher quality vrms.)



Nice deal on that RAM. The faster RAM you got, which you got, normal is 1600, the more your APU will benefit. xd_1771 or some other AMD techhead ran benchmarks here on our forum and knows all about how much you gain in games by having fast RAM feeding your APU.
Edited by FlashFir - 11/13/12 at 9:50pm
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Honestly, this setup: Gigabyte 785g/phenom 945 for $90 shipped would do you quite well. 785 chipset was a great one. This was my starting point into computers a few years back, and honestly, I have only picked up a few fps going from my old Athlon x3 to my current 960T.

Add to the above setup:

CX430 - $40 -> $20 after mir
memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $38
HDD: 1tb seagate $50
CASE: NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black $40 -> $30 after mir
Cooler: Xigmatek Gaia $20 (needed as the combo above doesn't have a heatsink and with a 125w cpu, things get hot quick.)

$248 shipped after $30 in mir. Add your choice of gpu - 6770/7770/etc... for around $90, and you are golden.

Edit: subtract $40 as I forgot you had a case. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Badwrench View Post

Honestly, this setup: Gigabyte 785g/phenom 945 for $90 shipped would do you quite well. 785 chipset was a great one. This was my starting point into computers a few years back, and honestly, I have only picked up a few fps going from my old Athlon x3 to my current 960T.
Add to the above setup:
CX430 - $40 -> $20 after mir
memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $38
HDD: 1tb seagate $50
CASE: NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black $40 -> $30 after mir
Cooler: Xigmatek Gaia $20 (needed as the combo above doesn't have a heatsink and with a 125w cpu, things get hot quick.)
$248 shipped after $30 in mir. Add your choice of gpu - 6770/7770/etc... for around $90, and you are golden.
Edit: subtract $40 as I forgot you had a case. thumb.gif

thumb.gif Thanks for the heads up, Badwrench. I PM'd him...we'll see how it goes smile.gif
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As I stated, the Corsair CX would be a better way to go. If you look at that psu, it only has 20a on the 12v which roughly equals 240w. I like Mushkin products, but that one doesn't have enough juice. Also, the wattage that the manufacturers recommend is generally way overkill. You will be more than fine with a true 400w psu.

That should be two 20A rails.

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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Badwrench View Post

Honestly, this setup: Gigabyte 785g/phenom 945 for $90 shipped would do you quite well. 785 chipset was a great one. This was my starting point into computers a few years back, and honestly, I have only picked up a few fps going from my old Athlon x3 to my current 960T.
Add to the above setup:
CX430 - $40 -> $20 after mir
memory: G.SKILL Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $38
HDD: 1tb seagate $50
CASE: NZXT Source 210 S210-001 Black $40 -> $30 after mir
Cooler: Xigmatek Gaia $20 (needed as the combo above doesn't have a heatsink and with a 125w cpu, things get hot quick.)
$248 shipped after $30 in mir. Add your choice of gpu - 6770/7770/etc... for around $90, and you are golden.
Edit: subtract $40 as I forgot you had a case. thumb.gif

I was looking into the MoBo, and discovered a few problems: No USB 3.0, No SATA 6gb/s...both are things I'm looking for in this build. Is there a quality MoBo with these additional features that I can fit in this build without going over budget? I like the rest of the setup otherwise smile.gif

Also, is this ram better than what you suggested? I can pick it up for $3 less until the 19th. Lemme know smile.gif
Edited by Damonthenomad - 11/14/12 at 12:51am
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Final update before I go to bed for the night. Microcenter is having a sale right now on FX series Processors. You get $40 off a bundled MoBo, and the processors are already discounted by about $10. Can I work any of these into a $350 build realistically?

Please keep in mind, I already got the case ($40) and the PSU ($25), but these are added into the cost of the build. Can I still use that PSU with these CPUs? That part I need to know A.S.A.P. The order is arriving later today, so I'll have to have an answer for Mr. UPS truck driver when he gets here...

Features I'm looking for the rig to have: USB 3.0, HDMI, SATA 6gb/s, preferably 8-16gb of ram.
Edited by Damonthenomad - 11/14/12 at 3:22am
post #58 of 110
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Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103 View Post

The build I suggested with a HD 7770 will far surpass a APU for gaming. For the same amount off cash too.

My apologies, i was thinking the newer apu's crossfired with cards in the 7000 series. they dont which would hold you back sorry about that
post #59 of 110
I would buy a less expensive (the corsair CX400, or the Rosewill Capstone 400, for instance) power supply and put the money toward a better motherboard.
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Schmuckley, what is this CPU you're suggesting!?!?!?!? IT LOOKS LIKE A MOBO TO ME! tongue.gif
Seriously though, what was the original CPU you were suggesting? biggrin.gif
Also, I grabbed the CX430 from newegg this morning. Missed the extra $5 off from last night, but still not a bad price.
Can I ask a potentially stupid question? CPUBenchmark ranks the A10-5800k at 198, the G850 at 447, the x4 640 at 313, and the x3 450 at 399. By these numbers, the A10 seems like the clear winner in performance, yet several people have been suggesting that some of these lower ranked CPUs will out-perform it. Is this because of the integrated graphics of the A10 vs discrete GPUs? Is CPU benchmark not the end-all-be-all of PC performance referencing like I'm thinking it is, or are the overall rankings not the most important numbers to look at? This is not a challenge to anyone's skill, or meant to be an insult in any way, shape, or form. I'm just trying to sort out all of the options people are throwing at me.

It was Pentium G860..and I know it will be pretty decent..because..for kicks..I hooked a 5870 up to an h61 build with a celeron g530 and ran Crysis.
It ran pretty smooth! lower fps by 10 on avg..but the g860 is clocked higher.Now that batman game ..eh..think that's a heavy-duty one..not so sure there..more cores might be better in that situation.
Edited by Schmuckley - 11/14/12 at 7:05am
 
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