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No to the Hyper 212 EVO, because the ETS T40 TB Silence completely outperforms it for the same price.

I suggest the Evo as I know it's an all round okay performer and good for the price. We don't have anything different here really so I've never really heard of other stuff like the Enermax and stuff. rolleyes.gif
 
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Originally Posted by Damonthenomad View Post

Also, since I am planning on overclocking the CPU, GPU, and RAM in this board, as well as potentially getting a second GPU in the future, will 450Watts PSU be enough, or should I go with something bigger?

Can anyone answer this for me, please?
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I suggest the Evo as I know it's an all round okay performer and good for the price. We don't have anything different here really so I've never really heard of other stuff like the Enermax and stuff. rolleyes.gif

Here's a thread I made about it some time ago.

It trumps the EVO, outperforming it in temperatures and cooling performance as well as noise levels. The recent rise in 212 EVO price back to the $35 shipped level removes any incentive to get it as the TB Silence takes that role of providing a far superior cooling solution for the same price.

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Here's a thread I made about it some time ago.
It trumps the EVO, outperforming it in temperatures and cooling performance as well as noise levels. The recent rise in 212 EVO price back to the $35 shipped level removes any incentive to get it as the TB Silence takes that role of providing a far superior cooling solution for the same price.

Yeah, I started reading up on the ETS-T40, and found a lot of reviews saying the same thing. Plus, I can pick it up on NCIX with PM and $20 off for an even better deal (once it's available again).
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Here's a thread I made about it some time ago.
It trumps the EVO, outperforming it in temperatures and cooling performance as well as noise levels. The recent rise in 212 EVO price back to the $35 shipped level removes any incentive to get it as the TB Silence takes that role of providing a far superior cooling solution for the same price.

Oh nice, just read that. Good job! smile.gif
Like I said, they don't stock these here as far as I know so it makes little to no difference to me.
 
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Can anyone answer this for me, please?

If you want to go dual GPU in the future, you'll need an upgrade.
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If you want to go dual GPU in the future, you'll need an upgrade.

Thanks for the reply, Juraat. What minimum wattage would you suggest? 550? 600?
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650 would be enough for most dual GPU setups
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Okay, you all have been a HUGE help to me so far, and I appreciate you coming back and answering my ignorant questions. I'm really excited about building this Rig, now more than ever.

I've been trying to educate myself more on each of the components in a PC build, researching which ones work the best for the lowest cost. For the sake of future upgrade-ability, as well as (from what I've seen) better gaming performance, I've decided to make this an Intel build.

In my research, I stumbled across this page. The article refers to the Pentium G860 that Badwrench suggested before, and the "step up," the G2120. According to the article, I can get better gaming performance out of the G2120, and since it's Ivy Bridge, I'll have more upgrade options in the future. With a PM on NCIX, and the $20 RAF discount, I can (currently) get the G2120 for $70 shipped. So the build so far looks like this:

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 - $70
Case: Thermaltake Armor A90 - $44 (tax + shipping)
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $54 (tax + shipping)

Total so far: $168, which equals $212 left for everything else (tax+shipping) out the door.

I haven't picked out an exact motherboard yet, but I've been looking at the Z75's because of price/performance/features, plus the ability to overclock. The Z77 series would be ideal, but out of my price range. I can get a decent Z75 board, and put the extra cash towards a better GPU: the 7850. I'm trying to shop around for one @ $60, so with the extra $20 off at NCIX, it'll be $40 out the door, and more towards the GPU. Suggestions (in this range) are definitely welcome, or if someone can just point me to a good one for around $70, I'll shop around until I find it cheaper. Just as a note, NCIX won't PM newegg...

Oh yeah, as if I haven't OVERSTATED it enough already, I'd like the motherboard to have USB 3.0, SATA 6gb/s, support crossfire, and have at least 1 PCI-e 3.0 x 16. Additional features that would be nice: 4 ram slots (with support up to 2400 mhz), additional PCI slots...basically something like this, or maybe EVEN this if I can find it for cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304

As for the RAM, if I can find a good current Black Friday deal for $20, I can use another coupon from NCIX, and with shipping, it'll only be $10. Hopefully I'll find something decent... Also, I should note, the G2120 only supports DDR3 1333/1600 RAM, so for now that's what I'll have to be using.

I already mentioned that I'm interested in a 7850 GPU. To stay within budget, I can't spend any more than $160 (and again, Newegg isn't an option, unless I can get one for $140). I found a few options, and I was hoping you guys could rank them from best to worst for me, as I don't really know the major differences (aside from RAM). I'll be crossfiring this card with another one in the future...

Sapphire 11200-16-20G
XFX FX785AZNL4
Gigabyte GV-R785OC-1GD
XFX FX785ACNL4

These are the only ones I can afford right now, unless somebody happens to know of a magical place where I can pick up a different (better) one for less wink.gif

...Next is the PSU. I returned the CX430 because 1) I can get a better deal through NCIX, putting more $$ back in my pocket, and 2) becaue I will eventually be crossfiring two cards. Juraat suggested I get a 650W PSU, since I am planning on crossfiring, as well as OCing the CPU, RAM, GPU, and MoBo. Any suggestions? I need to keep it cheap though (like, $40 MAX, cheap). Or should I abandon the idea of crossfiring if I can get the performance I'm looking for with just the 1 7850 OC'd, and stick with a lower wattage PSU like the Antec VP450? What do YOU guys think?
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Oh yeah, as if I haven't OVERSTATED it enough already, I'd like the motherboard to have USB 3.0, SATA 6gb/s, support crossfire, and have at least 1 PCI-e 3.0 x 16. Additional features that would be nice: 4 ram slots (with support up to 2400 mhz), additional PCI slots...basically something like this, or maybe EVEN this if I can find it for cheaper: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304
As for the RAM, if I can find a good current Black Friday deal for $20, I can use another coupon from NCIX, and with shipping, it'll only be $10. Hopefully I'll find something decent... Also, I should note, the G2120 only supports DDR3 1333/1600 RAM, so for now that's what I'll have to be using.
I already mentioned that I'm interested in a 7850 GPU. To stay within budget, I can't spend any more than $160 (and again, Newegg isn't an option, unless I can get one for $140). I found a few options, and I was hoping you guys could rank them from best to worst for me, as I don't really know the major differences (aside from RAM). I'll be crossfiring this card with another one in the future...
Sapphire 11200-16-20G
XFX FX785AZNL4
Gigabyte GV-R785OC-1GD
XFX FX785ACNL4
These are the only ones I can afford right now, unless somebody happens to know of a magical place where I can pick up a different (better) one for less wink.gif
...Next is the PSU. I returned the CX430 because 1) I can get a better deal through NCIX, putting more $$ back in my pocket, and 2) becaue I will eventually be crossfiring two cards. Juraat suggested I get a 650W PSU, since I am planning on crossfiring, as well as OCing the CPU, RAM, GPU, and MoBo. Any suggestions? I need to keep it cheap though (like, $40 MAX, cheap). Or should I abandon the idea of crossfiring if I can get the performance I'm looking for with just the 1 7850 OC'd, and stick with a lower wattage PSU like the Antec VP450? What do YOU guys think?

For the motherboard.. Just get that or something similar, it's fairly cheap as it is and has all the features you want. Saving $20 on a board isn't such a great idea as well.. The board won't be good quality at all.
For the 7850, make sure you get a 2GB. I know those XFX coolers are rubbish too. This should prove to be a reliable card, ASUS aren't that good with their warranties from what I've heard but they have to be better then XFX and the cooler is amazing in comparison. It's also a 2GB model as I mentioned.

As for the PSU.. I'd suggest spending a few $$$ more again due to it being what powers your PC. If it stops working it can potentially kill ALL of what you've just purchased.
I think a 550W bronze unit would do you fine. I'd be tempted to say "Grab a 650W" at the same time. I don't think you're really the kind of person that would be interested in Crossfire, it has a lot of issues and doesn't scale well in all games either. It also requires more power (Bigger PSU and higher electricity bill) when you'd be better off selling the single card and then getting a new better single card which will clock more and is more efficient. I also generally don't suggest Crossfiring lower-mid range GPUs as the drivers aren't as optimized as high end ones and again it costs more. I'm being Hypocritical in saying so because I had 2x 6850's but it was a royal pain in the... sometimes. Other times it was great, but it's not 100% scaling, costs more, heat problems and it looked messy too. It also made me remove overclocks on my first card too. I don't know if that will be the case for you but yeah.

EDIT: Go get yourself another CX430 BOY!
Edited by Matt-Matt - 11/22/12 at 4:23am
 
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