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Originally Posted by Mhill2029 View Post

We can all praise AMD with their recent work regarding driver optimisations, but lets be realistic for a moment GK104 was no slouch by any means even with it's castrated features. By opening up the memory bus to 384bit alone will give reasonable gains, a serious boost in cores and clock speeds could spell a dramatic difference indeed.
Also we must keep in mind that Nvidia does has TDP in it's favour, AMD are already pulling crazy power figures with their 7970's. Does AMD's 8xxx series have much room for improvement? Unlikely.....because power draw is against them. This is the reason why the 7990 never happened.

Might want to check your facts again, the 7990 was released http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600364405&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207990
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Provided the GPGPU performance is rocking again this will be on my radar.
Until Nvidia see 6xx series sales dropping, they won't realease as early as January. In fact, I'm calling it now, it's going to be March 25th tongue.gif
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Well, if these were the real specs of the GTX 780, there'd be little if anything to be lost. All GK110 has over this alleged GK114 is a few shaders, which would largely go unused. They'd be quite bandwidth starved. This has the same bus bandwidth and ROPs (unless Nvidia decoupled the ROPs like AMD, which is unlikely). It's quite literally a 50% bigger GTX 680.

Exactly, coupled with the higher clocks if these specs turn out to be true they'd be a better option compared to GK110. I'm just still baffled that NV would design a big GPU specifically for geforce cards. Just refreshing GK104 would have been horrible but this sounds pretty good.
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Might want to check your facts again, the 7990 was released http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600364405&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207990

Those are as much 7990s as the MARSII was a 590 or the ARES was a 5970. Custom designs from board partners, they have nothing to do with AMD (aside from them supplying the chips and giving a green light on the design most likely). But there's no 7990 from AMD.
 
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Might want to check your facts again, the 7990 was released http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600286767%20600364405&IsNodeId=1&name=Radeon%20HD%207990

Erm, do i indeed? There was no "official" 7990 from AMD. rolleyes.gif
 
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Well, if these were the real specs of the GTX 780, there'd be little if anything to be lost. All GK110 has over this alleged GK114 is a few shaders, which would largely go unused. They'd be quite bandwidth starved. This has the same bus bandwidth and ROPs (unless Nvidia decoupled the ROPs like AMD, which is unlikely). It's quite literally a 50% bigger GTX 680.

Assuming these specs are real you are probabally correct.
    
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GTX 480 at release was 39% faster than the 285 (Tesla to Fermi)
GTX 580 at release was 11% faster than the 480 (Fermi to Fermi)
GTX 680 at release was 19% faster than the 580 (Fermi to Kepler)
In response to bold; the 680 is, right now, right about 31% faster than the 580. Drivers do help older cards but newer cards obviously have much more performance to be milked from them.
The 700 series is a refresh of the Kepler architecture therefore I, too, think anything more than a 20% performance increase over the 680 is being overly optimistic. But as I've mentioned, I would not be surprised if my estimates are wrong. Technology surprises do happen.

yes, but if you actually read the article in the OP and actually THOUGHT about what you would have read instead of just making assumptions based solely on extremely short lived statistical trends about the names of the GPUs that ultimately have nothing to do with the OP...well then you'd realize something going on such as

GTX285 = 1.4B transistors, 240 shaders @ 1368MHz, 80 TMUs, 32 ROPs @ 684MHz, 512bit GDDR3 = 159GB/s

GTX480 = 3B transistors, 480 shaders @ 1400MHz, 60 TMUs / 48 ROPs @ 700MHz, 384bit GDDR5 = 177GB/s (gee, I wonder why this one was so much faster than 285...)

GTX580 = 3B transistors, 512 shaders @ 1544Mhz, 64 TMUs / 48ROPs @ 772MHz, 384bit GDDR5 = 192GB/s (gee, I wonder why this one was only a minor upgrade from the 480)

GTX680 = 3.5B transistors, 1536 @ 1006MHz, 128 TMUs / 32 ROPs @ 1006MHz, 256bit GDDR5 = 192GB/s (upgrade in performance pretty admirable considering the tiny nature of the chip)

now according to this article...

GTX780 = ~5+B (most likely) transistors, 2304 shaders @ 1100+MHz, (192)? TMUs / (48)? ROPs @ 1100+MHz, 384bit GDDR5 = 312GB/s

if this rumor is at all close to being true then there's simply no way the 780 doesn't deliver an easy 40+% performance increase

now if you want to argue that you don't think the rumor is feasible that's fine, and you should state that and give reason why, otherwise your talk of 15-30% is very out of place in this thread, it simply makes 0 sense based on this particular rumor
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This rumour would mean that it's using GK110, not GK114 (What is meant to be a mid-range GPU), the die size would be too big and we also know nVidia worked on a GK110 too.
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hi all!
i heard a few days before that NV wanna make a GK2xx ?!
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/images/stories/newsbilder/astegmueller/2012/videocardz_nvidia_gk208.png

Codename for the 700 series chips could either be 20* (GK204/GK208/GK206) or 11* (GK114/GK116/GK117).

The GK208 would be a low end chip with 192 cores. It was already discussed in another topic made here.
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thx for the info !
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