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Ok so I have tried to overclock my AMD FX 8150 and all is well up to 4.3 ghz but anything after that the system needs way to much voltage and the heat jumps dramatically after that.

At the moment I am at stock settings with turbo boost enabled to get at least decent speeds but when I overclock I turn off turbo boost and cool and quiet along with c6 and c1 on my mother board this allows me to get a much higher voltage with less heat increase.

With the c6 and c1 enabled my temps raise about 15 degrees celsius for each increment i jump. My motherboard only lets me jump .025 of a volt every time i up it. I have a gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 mobo and I have the Coolermaster 212 evo as a cooling system with a push pull config with an exhaust fan in the back of my case and 2 top 140mm exhaust fans.

With everything disabled my heat increases only 5 celsius until i get to 1.400 volts than it jumps from a max temp of 52 celsius to about 68-75 celsius and when i bump it up to 1.425 the heat usually gets to the breaking point of 85-90 wich is all my comp will handle before it shuts down.

I have done a lot of research on this topic with my cpu and others and I know there will be no perfect overcock for everyone but there should at least be a method to increase the speed without increasing the temp to max.

In my reserch i have found that people have been attaining about 4.6 ghz easily with good air cooling and i have one of the top air coolers on the market right now so i should at least be able to get to there wich if my calculations are correct should make my processor 20-30% faster than its stock with turbo boost enabled.

I just need to know if what I am doing is correct. So far i have been upping the multiplier by .5 rebooting and stress testing with intel burn test on standard settings just to see if the system is relatively stable. In my testing i have attained stable overclock up to 4.3 ghz on 1.375 volts my temps when at this level are around 52-55 celsius. I just read a little while ago that sometimes you need to also increase the fbs to attain a higher stable overclock i have not tried this yet but i will when i get home. In my reaserch as well i have seen that people have gotten a stable 4.5 overclock with 1.450 volts and i have tried 4.4 on 1.425 volts its stable but the temps increase to dangerous levels somewhere around 85-90. Is there any way to increase speed without increasing voltage to get a stable overclock?

Also i just want to know if my temps are like off the carts with this air cooler because i may have installed it wrong or soemthing making the temps much higher than they should be. as far as i know i installed it correctly with a pea sized dot of thermal grease and tightened the screws snug to the mobo. other than my OC though my temps are extremely expectable on stock settings they hover around 35-45 max sometimes 48 if my room starts getting hot.

Any help will be appreciated because this is like the most awesome thing i have gotten to do wit my new rig so far haha.

OH! BTW! on novabench my cpu at stock gets a score of 635 about and when i overclock to 4.3 i get about 680 =) this surpasses all the intel chips up to the 950 3.07ghz haha =) just think what scor i could get if i increase the ghz to 4.5 or 4.6! I hope i can do it safely and stably.
Edited by joshontech - 11/13/12 at 11:44am
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you shouldnt go past 1.4v on air since temps will increase too dramatically. try 1.39v and adjust the multiplier to 22.5. also, what thermal paste did you use and how long ago did you install it?
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I had a CM Hyper 212+ when I had an 1090T and there was a certain point in upping the voltage where the 212+ would just give and temps would skyrocket. That sounds like what is happening to you, you've reached the limits of your cooling capacity.

You have to understand when you OC FX chips the power consumption skyrockets as well.. with more power consumption comes more watts that you need to dissipate and it looks like your cooler just isn't up to the task.

I wouldn't let the temp get that high either.. I would stop your stress test when you hit the 60's mark, ideally you want to stay under 55C 24/7. You are letting it get into the 90s until your computer shuts down and that is WAYYY too hot.

Also have the following disabled while in the overclocking process:

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Thanks guys for the replies and I can't get the multiplier that high on that voltage with stability. The highest I can go is about 20.5 and that is on 1.375 volts because my mono only let's me increase the voltage by .025 for every step up. I have tried messing with the fsb a little and the same results there only able to get to 4.3 GHz on 1.375 volts with temps in the high 60s.

And I think my thermal paste got messed up from the high temps because now my temps read higher on stock settings than before I tried ocing. I just really want that 4.5 GHz because it would make my rig a lot faster like I said about 20% or 30% faster. Anything after 4.2ghz makes the system performance jump Considerably.
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I used the cooler master paste they gave me.
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Cores temps needs to be under 62c.
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Yea but it looks like something is wrong with my cooler so im going to have to reapply the thermal paste and see what happens.
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I used the cooler master paste they gave me.

^is no good, or not good enough. If you change to mx2/3/4, I'm sure you will atleast see 5 degrees difference.
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mx-2 is the best paste for normal use and it's only $10

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186038

buy that and clean your cooler and try again. also what case do you have?
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Yes I actually found out last night that it was the thermal paste that caused the higher temps. For some reason once the thermal paste gets to a really high temp it starts to malfunction and losse about about 6 degrees celsius. I reset the same thermal pase and it read my stock temps with turbo boost at about 42 celsius on load and now after trying to overclock it (something went wrong with the temp programs i was running and they froze till the temp whent past the TJMax) and the comp shut down and ever cince that i am getting 45-50 celsius on stock with full load.
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