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So I`ve chosen two laptops but I cant decide which
CPU,Ram,HDD are adequate/identical for both so I`m ignoring them,cost is also irrelevent

Option 1: Lenovo IdeaPad Y580
GPU GTX660M
Resolution 1366 x 768 or 1920x1080
Size 15.6"

Option 1: Gigabyte Q1742N
GPU GT640M
Resolution 1600x900 or 1920x1080
Size 17.3" or 15.6"

I will be Gaming/rending/coding on either of these.
Lifespan is kinda important to me (hoping for 4-5 years)
I might not be able to 1920x1080 versions of either though

Question1 GTX660M vs GT640M Obviously the 660M has superior performance but what about thermals and battery life?
Obviously the 660M is wasted on a 1366x768 res.

Question2 Can the 640M handle new games(Blops2,BL2,NFSMW) at low/med? (Obviously the 660M can)

BING BING I`ve heard that 15.6 doesn`t mix well with 1920x1080. Can anybody clarify/provide opinions?
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post #2 of 24
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Originally Posted by nukefission View Post

So I`ve chosen two laptops but I cant decide which
CPU,Ram,HDD are adequate/identical for both so I`m ignoring them,cost is also irrelevent
Option 1: Lenovo IdeaPad Y580
GPU GTX660M
Resolution 1366 x 768 or 1920x1080
Size 15.6"
Option 1: Gigabyte Q1742N
GPU GT640M
Resolution 1600x900 or 1920x1080
Size 17.3" or 15.6"
I will be Gaming/rending/coding on either of these.
Lifespan is kinda important to me (hoping for 4-5 years)
I might not be able to 1920x1080 versions of either though
Question1 GTX660M vs GT640M Obviously the 660M has superior performance but what about thermals and battery life?
Obviously the 660M is wasted on a 1366x768 res.
Question2 Can the 640M handle new games(Blops2,BL2,NFSMW) at low/med? (Obviously the 660M can)
BING BING I`ve heard that 15.6 doesn`t mix well with 1920x1080. Can anybody clarify/provide opinions?

Out of the two I would go with a lenovo for sure. I would personally try to get the 1080p screen, I had a 15.6" screen with 1366x768 resolution for a couple of years, it was alright, but 1080p is so much better for surfing, and doing any kind of work. I wont ever go back to a lower resolution screen. I'm not sure where you heard that, but I don't see the reasoning that could be behind it.

Edit** if your intention is to game... just as in a desktop, its important for the PC to be balanced, but the GPU is a key factor in the games performance... you should get the best that you can.

I would take a look at a sager NP6350 it has some really good options for money savings, and customization options... there is also an MSI GE60 that has a 660m in it, they have decent price point for similar hardware. What is your budget?


whoops you're in South Africa. dont know what you have for options for sager/clevo notebooks...
Edited by identitycrisis - 11/13/12 at 12:42pm
     
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post #3 of 24
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Out of the two I would go with a lenovo for sure. I would personally try to get the 1080p screen, I had a 15.6" screen with 1366x768 resolution for a couple of years, it was alright, but 1080p is so much better for surfing, and doing any kind of work. I wont ever go back to a lower resolution screen. I'm not sure where you heard that, but I don't see the reasoning that could be behind it.
Also forgot to ask How is the build quality between the 2?
I assume lenovo is better due to experience whereas gigabyte laptops aren`t that common?

My currently lappy is a 1366x768 and my desktop is 1920x1080.
The difference is like night and day.
But 1920x1080 on a 15.6? isn`t that a higher "PPI" vs 17"?
Not exactly sure how that affects stuff though.
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post #4 of 24
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Originally Posted by nukefission View Post

Also forgot to ask How is the build quality between the 2?
I assume lenovo is better due to experience whereas gigabyte laptops aren`t that common?
My currently lappy is a 1366x768 and my desktop is 1920x1080.
The difference is like night and day.
But 1920x1080 on a 15.6? isn`t that a higher "PPI" vs 17"?
Not exactly sure how that affects stuff though.


I wouldn't worry about it.... I don't know why anyone would recommend a 1366x768 res screen unless they were going for bottom barrel gaming laptop. That low of a resolution requires more scrolling on webpages, etc...


As for quality, people seem to like and recommend leneovos, I have never owned either, but again, after looking into a y580, it seems like a solid laptop.
     
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My M17x R2 has a 1920x1200 17" screen and it's absolutely stunning. There's no reason to doubt a 15.6" 1080p screen once you've seen something like this. The PPI is incredible and because of that, the color and clarity of the screen is just amazing.

Granted, different screens have different components. Mine happens to be a rather high end model that runs around $500 new and surpasses most desktop monitors in quality and color clarity.

For overall build quality, the Lenovo is excellent. You won't have many issues with that machine. Also, the 660M isn't wasted at 720p. You're placing the GPU too high up there. My 6970M is faster and I can't push my native res in most games at max settings. Granted I run at 1200p vs 1080p, but the difference is that one is a little taller than the other. tongue.gif Big difference. rolleyes.gif
     
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post #6 of 24
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South africa has no sager frown.gif

There is no 1920x1080 version of the Lenovo either In south africa
Guess I could live with 1366x768 but I`d like not to.
so its a question of 1366x768 660M or 1600x900(or 1920) 640M
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South africa has no sager frown.gif
There is no 1920x1080 version of the Lenovo either In south africa
Guess I could live with 1366x768 but I`d like not to.
so its a question of 1366x768 660M or 1600x900(or 1920) 640M

There is little point in going for the higher resolution screen with an inferior GPU. I would take the GTX 660m and look for a replacement screen.
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There is little point in going for the higher resolution screen with an inferior GPU. I would take the GTX 660m and look for a replacement screen.
Yeah Somebody else in south africa looked at replacement screens on the Y580
Unfortunately I just don`t have the time to mod/replace the screen.

However I might be able to import from an international supplier so I`l investigate that and perhaps create a new thread if necessary
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Yeah Somebody else in south africa looked at replacement screens on the Y580
Unfortunately I just don`t have the time to mod/replace the screen.
However I might be able to import from an international supplier so I`l investigate that and perhaps create a new thread if necessary

If you have the option, why not just order the notebook with the 1080p Screen? I wouldn't go through the trouble, nor chance voiding the warranty on it. I had a 1080p screen on a GTX 560m and I didn't find that the GPU is under powered to the point that I couldn't play any games.
     
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The 660M/720p screen deal is the best bet. It's not that bad on a 15.6" machine. I've had to use a 720p desktop monitor and those are pretty gnarly... DX The laptop screen equivalents aren't anywhere near as bad.
     
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