Originally Posted by M3T4LM4N222
"Selling the company is not AMD's focus"
They're simply looking at better ways to manage money. AMD processors will live even if another company buys them out - just like how ATI lived when AMD bought them out.
Yeah, they're saying its an option..Not something they're aiming to do.
Originally Posted by Edge Of Pain
This is bad news but...
Bulldozer could NOT have caused this at all, regardless of the performance.
It must be to do with OEM deals.
Originally Posted by EniGma1987
Originally Posted by Usario
Refusing to license x86 to anyone at all no matter what doesn't sound like a deliberate business practice that seeks to dominate markets to you?
Via also has a license. Sure they are tiny, but it is still a competitor. And although the rumor says that AMD's licensing of x86 is non-transferable to anyone who buys AMD, I am betting that Intel would be fine with negotiating a license to whoever bought them.
But AMD isnt even looking at selling the company. This is just a sensational headline with massive amount of users not even looking into the matter.
I'd say it depends, if it was a company they could easily beat into submission then point at for anti-trust reasons I can see them happily loaning x86 licenses around, but if its a behemoth like IBM....yeah. Fun fact, IBM still have an x86 license for 32bit x86 and (iirc) MMX, acquiring AMD would give them 64bit x64 instructions (AMD owns those and loaned them to Intel) but not SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, etc instructions, only SSE4a..which wouldn't be enough even if IBM put tonnes of money into R&D for a fast CPU.
Honestly though, if AMD does have to sell..I can see IBM buying them, but leaving them as AMD while being owned and funded by IBM with much better R&D funding among other things, I'm sure that there's a way legally to give AMD the funding from IBM while keeping all their patents, etc.
Originally Posted by jtom320
I think this is good news honestly. It's not the name AMD that people like it's the engineers behind it and the products themselves. A big company with money like Samsung or IBM or even Microsoft could reinvigorate the talent AMD has and more importantly continue funding the stuff they are doing. As far as the x86 license it's definitely in Intel's best interest to have competition so I don't see that being a major stumbling block.
MS is a definite, Surface has proven they want to get into Hardware.
Originally Posted by Dimaggio1103
Originally Posted by Darkpriest667
You either have no idea how the Sherman Act works or you're trolling me. I am going to make a dangerous assumption and believe that you don't know how the Sherman Act works in the U.S.
They broke up AT&T ... if AMD falls they'll break up Intel and Nvidia in a heartbeat.
Wow, couldn't be more wrong. This applies to company's seeking a monopoly on the market deliberately. Intel cant help the fact AMD does or does not go out of business. So the government would not be allowed to sanction Intel just because their competitor couldn't manage their money. Also, Intel still would not qualify as a monopoly in the way the law describes or at least was intended.
Its absurd that you think if AMD goes out of business that Intel will be broken up. lol
Why do you think AMD is in such a bad position now? Intel was paying off OEMs, using bias in their compiler to artificially decrease performance on AMDs CPUs among other things, AMD was going fine before this, they've been in the red since then, if AMD breaks up and the government looks at Intel being a monopoly you bet they'll look at this..Intel has been convicted of it and the amount they reimbursed AMD has been regarded as pretty low by a lot of people considering the amount of lost business.
Originally Posted by SkillzKillz
Originally Posted by xlink
AMD as we know it is doomed.
Their financials are shattered. It doesn't matter if they have the best bang/$ products if in pricing them as such they can't make up development costs and cover overhead.
5 years ago they had 6 billion in debt. Today they have 2 billion in debt.
They are currently restructuring and cutting costs (15% workface layoff). They are not giving up without a fight. They still have great products and valuable IP. I would not be suprised if AMD completely turned around in 2014.