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Like others have said, personal preference. I much prefer android, I used my mums iphone 4s for a while and I honestly didn't like it that much. It was nice, but I love android much more. and imo iphone is no easier too use than android
    
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Well, I've made up my mind. To those of you who remembered what the point of this thread was and managed to stay on topic, thank you for your insightful feedback. It was truly helpful smile.gif
The rest of you seriously need to work on your sales pitch, because you're not doing Android any favors by ridiculously trying to claim that Android is superior to iOS in every single way. Furthermore, you'd be better off sticking to what you understand (Android's strengths) rather than trying to bash what you don't understand (iOS's weaknesses - as a longtime iOS user I can easily tell when someone's never actually used an iDevice for any appreciable length of time and are just parroting tech news headlines). Still, thanks for the lulz, I guess.

You made a point, in which I stopped even replying, lol.
I hope you enjoy what it is that you picked!

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To help add to the discussion in a civilized manner I will talk about my experience with smartphones (I actually get to use a lot of smartphones due to work, teaching customers how to use them for work or specialized tasks etc).

I am coming from an Atrix 4G, and before that a Iphone 4. My experience with the Iphone 4 was not one I would call great but it was NOT bad. I would consider it a pleasant and joyful experience. But not great.

I switched to android, and choose the Atrix 4G to be my companion for the next 2 years. At first the phone was GREAT. It was speedy, did what I wanted, and didn't mess up. But somethings bothered me: poor viewing angles, interpolated resolution, poor music app performance.
A few months went by, and I began to notice a lot of bugs, and lock ups. Including network drops. I did a hard reset, and began over however these lock ups/freezes/performance/network drops were getting to be too much. The experience of support with Motorola was poor, and left a bad taste in my mouth.
Shortly after talking to Motorola, and deciding not to send it in to Motorola, my phone began to shut down randomly when unlocking/locking the phone on top of dropping calls more and more frequently.

To make a long story short, for over a year and half I struggled with the Atrix, going through a replacement and finally putting up with. It put me off from using smartphones, and I ended up seeking refuge under the comfort of a full OS experience on a Laptop. Or If I needed something more portable, a tablet.

Overall I was left with a bad taste in my mouth, and a overall let down by the smartphone industry: Android or iOS (windows wasn't a real options then).
One hand offers incredible potential and a promise of a more full experience, but shoddy quality and the other offers great quality but a very monotonous and closed experience.

At the end of the day I chose a Lumia 920 when AT&T allowed me for an early standard upgrade (Full upgrade) for any phone. I wanted to see if W8P+Nokia's flagship could rekindle the fire of smartphones. And it really did, the phone is beyond what I've used in phones. The OS is super light weight, and optimized from what I could tell. Opening apps that I used a lot was quick, and painless.
Skype on W8P is a darn right upgrade for those whom still use Live messenger like my self. If you use Live messenger, you know the apps available for it are buggy, slow to load, and crash a lot. The skype app is flawless on the w8p. FAST, logs in quickly and was never disconnected despite being connected 24/7 for 2 days.

But the 920 was not perfect. I still had a problem. W8P is similar to iOS in that an effort to give you the best experience possible they lock you down to what you can do as far as customization, and app functions (notifications, whether seen or heard for one example).
The camera also was a let down in daylight, oversharpening images and not producing clear stills.

Some of my problems are promised fixes by Nokia (Camera issues), and notifications/other updates (MIcrosoft). However I cannot afford another year or two with a poor experience for smartphones and the lock down of the customization and app functions will remain so.

I looked around and broke it down to these options:
Galaxy S3
Nexus 4
HTC One X+
or
Iphone 4S (I dont want the Iphone 5, I just don't dig the design leave it at that).

I started my phone search with these simple criteria criteria:
1. Camera AND screen - both are equal and both are dealbreaker-
2. Sound quality -dealbreaker-
3. Live messenger app -could live-
4. Solid emailing (every platform has done well in this aspect)

It led me to the Lumia 920, HTC One X+, Nexus 4, and Galaxy S3.
The Galaxy S3 is a huge no no because of the AMOLED screen. I am more of a display purist, I want naturalism even if that means looking at a duller display. I prefer great viewing angles, etc. I love the OS, and hardware but simply could not overcome the screen issue.
HTC one X+: Screen would be good, camera should be average however
nexus 4: Unknown experience, screen should be good but camera is poor.

Eventually after going to AT&T several times, trying several devices I came to the conclusion:
I cannot find a Android experience, with an Iphone camera. I could find hardware, and screen equivalents or betters. But not a great camera, mixed with a great OS.

So I had to simplify my criteria to necessity and leave my camera needs to dedicated hardware:
1. What phone will guarantee me a pleasant or better experience for the next 2 years?
The only phone I could think of was a Iphone 4s I am afraid. I will just have to force my self into the Apple ecosystem, which like I said I pleasant and joyful but ultimately not the BEST experience that I know is possible.

So my question is:
WHAT THE HECK IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MANUFACTURER TO JUST SOURCE THE SAME CAMERA AS THE IPHONE 4S/5?!
Edited by AsAnAtheist - 11/16/12 at 2:07pm
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Originally Posted by AsAnAtheist View Post

To help add to the discussion in a civilized manner I will talk about my experience with smartphones (I actually get to use a lot of smartphones due to work, teaching customers how to use them for work or specialized tasks etc).
I am coming from an Atrix 4G, and before that a Iphone 4. My experience with the Iphone 4 was not one I would call great but it was NOT bad. I would consider it a pleasant and joyful experience. But not great.
I switched to android, and choose the Atrix 4G to be my companion for the next 2 years. At first the phone was GREAT. It was speedy, did what I wanted, and didn't mess up. But somethings bothered me: poor viewing angles, interpolated resolution, poor music app performance.
A few months went by, and I began to notice a lot of bugs, and lock ups. Including network drops. I did a hard reset, and began over however these lock ups/freezes/performance/network drops were getting to be too much. The experience of support with Motorola was poor, and left a bad taste in my mouth.
Shortly after talking to Motorola, and deciding not to send it in to Motorola, my phone began to shut down randomly when unlocking/locking the phone on top of dropping calls more and more frequently.
To make a long story short, for over a year and half I struggled with the Atrix, going through a replacement and finally putting up with. It put me off from using smartphones, and I ended up seeking refuge under the comfort of a full OS experience on a Laptop. Or If I needed something more portable, a tablet.
Overall I was left with a bad taste in my mouth, and a overall let down by the smartphone industry: Android or iOS (windows wasn't a real options then).
One hand offers incredible potential and a promise of a more full experience, but shoddy quality and the other offers great quality but a very monotonous and closed experience.
At the end of the day I chose a Lumia 920 when AT&T allowed me for an early standard upgrade (Full upgrade) for any phone. I wanted to see if W8P+Nokia's flagship could rekindle the fire of smartphones. And it really did, the phone is beyond what I've used in phones. The OS is super light weight, and optimized from what I could tell. Opening apps that I used a lot was quick, and painless.
Skype on W8P is a darn right upgrade for those whom still use Live messenger like my self. If you use Live messenger, you know the apps available for it are buggy, slow to load, and crash a lot. The skype app is flawless on the w8p. FAST, logs in quickly and was never disconnected despite being connected 24/7 for 2 days.
But the 920 was not perfect. I still had a problem. W8P is similar to iOS in that an effort to give you the best experience possible they lock you down to what you can do as far as customization, and app functions (notifications, whether seen or heard for one example).
The camera also was a let down in daylight, oversharpening images and not producing clear stills.
Some of my problems are promised fixes by Nokia (Camera issues), and notifications/other updates (MIcrosoft). However I cannot afford another year or two with a poor experience for smartphones and the lock down of the customization and app functions will remain so.
I looked around and broke it down to these options:
Galaxy S3
Nexus 4
HTC One X+
or
Iphone 4S (I dont want the Iphone 5, I just don't dig the design leave it at that).
I started my phone search with these simple criteria criteria:
1. Camera AND screen - both are equal and both are dealbreaker-
2. Sound quality -dealbreaker-
3. Live messenger app -could live-
4. Solid emailing (every platform has done well in this aspect)
It led me to the Lumia 920, HTC One X+, Nexus 4, and Galaxy S3.
The Galaxy S3 is a huge no no because of the AMOLED screen. I am more of a display purist, I want naturalism even if that means looking at a duller display. I prefer great viewing angles, etc. I love the OS, and hardware but simply could not overcome the screen issue.
HTC one X+: Screen would be good, camera should be average however
nexus 4: Unknown experience, screen should be good but camera is poor.
Eventually after going to AT&T several times, trying several devices I came to the conclusion:
I cannot find a Android experience, with an Iphone camera. I could find hardware, and screen equivalents or betters. But not a great camera, mixed with a great OS.
So I had to simplify my criteria to necessity and leave my camera needs to dedicated hardware:
1. What phone will guarantee me a pleasant or better experience for the next 2 years?
The only phone I could think of was a Iphone 4s I am afraid. I will just have to force my self into the Apple ecosystem, which like I said I pleasant and joyful but ultimately not the BEST experience that I know is possible.
So my question is:
WHAT THE HECK IS TAKING SO LONG FOR A MANUFACTURER TO JUST SOURCE THE SAME CAMERA AS THE IPHONE 4S/5?!

It scares me to think how much of what you typed up is exactly like what goes through my mind.

I have done much of that same frustrating searching as you. I tell you my biggest problem, I am scared that if the wife and I both upgrade our phones this next week, I will be stuck with a phone I don't want in a few months. I have this feeling that ALL of the phone manufacturers are going to be stepping up the camera aspect of these phones over the next year. I wish Nokia would release this new firmware this next week so I can know if I would be happy with going with the 920 or not. I do want to be able to customize, and I just can't tell how much of that I am able to do with this W8 phones....

Decisions decisions....
Good post, thanks!
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I'm having a hard time deciding between these 2 for my next phone...
iPhone 5:
- LTE
- Still pocket-sized and usable with 1 hand
- Apple service and support (nobody else in the smartphone market has same-day service AFAIK)
- Better app ecosystem
Nexus 4:
- Cheap (note that I'd be getting an unlocked iPhone 5 should I choose that route, so no carrier subsidies either way)
- Real maps
- More freedom
I don't think either iOS (outdated UI) or Android (lacks hardware-specific optimization) is great, so other than the things I mentioned above I have no preference for one or the other.

The app ecosystem isn't much better for apple anymore. Also, you gotta look at what you're also going to use the phone for. Do you have a bunch of music that you bought off of iTunes? Or the movies?

That right there is a selling point just for me. I have a ton of rips that I put on my HD and there is essentially no way to get them on my iPhone without having to user 91038401284 apps to get it to work correctly.

Ecosystems can cause issues, just an FYI
     
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It scares me to think how much of what you typed up is exactly like what goes through my mind.
I have done much of that same frustrating searching as you. I tell you my biggest problem, I am scared that if the wife and I both upgrade our phones this next week, I will be stuck with a phone I don't want in a few months. I have this feeling that ALL of the phone manufacturers are going to be stepping up the camera aspect of these phones over the next year. I wish Nokia would release this new firmware this next week so I can know if I would be happy with going with the 920 or not. I do want to be able to customize, and I just can't tell how much of that I am able to do with this W8 phones....
Decisions decisions....
Good post, thanks!
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I have the 4S and while the camera is good compared to a lot of the other phones out there (most in general) the current high end phones from Samsung like the Galaxy Note 2 and the GS3 are basically just as good.

Especially since you have a lot more control over the camera controls vs's just clicking the button(s) such as exposure levels and so on. The automatic shots, iPhone 4S/5 -- Actually try to take a picture, GS3/Note2
     
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I have the 4S and while the camera is good compared to a lot of the other phones out there (most in general) the current high end phones from Samsung like the Galaxy Note 2 and the GS3 are basically just as good.
Especially since you have a lot more control over the camera controls vs's just clicking the button(s) such as exposure levels and so on. The automatic shots, iPhone 4S/5 -- Actually try to take a picture, GS3/Note2

The only phones I have access to, are my Atrix, wife's iPhone 4, mom's Atrix 2, brothers GS2, and my dad's GS3.

The one I played around with more than any other was the GS3, as it is the newest one and the phone most others are compared against.
I took some photos with his phone one day and wasn't overly impressed TBH. The color reproduction was off, pretty significantly. Some colors were flat and pale while others were over sharpened. The thing was, it was all in the same picture.

I didn't have time to play with the settings in detail. I can't remember, but I think there was an ICS rom on there that got rid of all the crap.
None the less, I am going to have to keep an eye out. I don't know anyone with a 4s to compare the shots to so that helps alot. Thank you for posting, I do appreciate it.

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I have the 4S and while the camera is good compared to a lot of the other phones out there (most in general) the current high end phones from Samsung like the Galaxy Note 2 and the GS3 are basically just as good.
Especially since you have a lot more control over the camera controls vs's just clicking the button(s) such as exposure levels and so on. The automatic shots, iPhone 4S/5 -- Actually try to take a picture, GS3/Note2

Nowhere near as good in most situations.
I tried a S3, the camera was oversharpening, missing details, not focusing properly, the screen's over saturation and not so good image quality didn't help either when taking the shots. If you look at a picture at 100% native resolution, you will see the quality doesn't quite match the Iphone 4s let alone the Iphone 5.
The S3 is probably the closest to the Iphone 4s camera in the market right now from what I have tested but still not as good or better.

The Note 2 is the same as the S3 when I used it.
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Nowhere near as good in most situations.
I tried a S3, the camera was oversharpening, missing details, not focusing properly, the screen's over saturation and not so good image quality didn't help either when taking the shots. If you look at a picture at 100% native resolution, you will see the quality doesn't quite match the Iphone 4s let alone the Iphone 5.
The S3 is probably the closest to the Iphone 4s camera in the market right now from what I have tested but still not as good or better.
The Note 2 is the same as the S3 when I used it.

The difference from iPhone 5 and 4S cameras is less then 5%.
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The difference from iPhone 5 and 4S cameras is less then 5%.

The difference is minute in most situations.
When I was using it to take pictures I found the Iphone 5 was a little bit more accurate indoors, however I am unsure what that is attributed to since both phones were running iOS6. It's possible the Sapphire cover may be helping in color accuracy?
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