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As the semester Winds down, I have one more round of exams, and then I can focus on the fun of gaming and building my rig.

I just upgrading my case from a Rosewill Challenger to a Switch 810... I LOVE the switch smile.gif As well as upgraded from a Seasonic 520W to Corsair HX750.

Current Set-up is:

Switch 810
HX750
i5-2400
Maximus GeneZ/Gen3 LGA1155
(I know the MATX in a full tower looks a little funny, but it was a good sale on Newegg and I don't have plans for more multiple GPU's in the near future)
GTX 670 FTW
G.Skill 2x2GB Ripjaws X at 7-8-7-24
OCZ 90gb ssd boot drive
2x Seagate 3TB storage drives



I am looking at the possible next upgrades and am not sure which I should tackle first..

I am looking for a new processor, unlocked, for the money I was debating the i5-2500k even though it is only SB and not Ivy..I was thinking of waiting for the Haswell... but not sure what the best move would be

I am thinking of Watercooling with using the XSPC Raystorm Ex420 as the base package and later adding an additional 240 rad at the bottom of the switch for when I WC my GPU

Ram Upgrade, I believe waiting to upgrade the ram until I get a new CPU capable of running higher frequencies would be the best, but then again I am asking for your advice...

2 more SSD's to raid 0 for gaming...

I am looking for advice on what the best first move would be in terms of performance.

Currently I use for rig for school work (Running Monte Carlo Simulations), Gaming (BL2, BF3 etc.) and recently got into Folding. I cannot fold much as it heats my CPU very hot very quickly which is why WC has been on my mind a lot lately.

I plan on keeping my MOBO for a while, and using the LGA 1155 socket, I have seen 750W used on SLI 670's so if I ever get to that point, WCing them on the mATX wouldn't be too bad.

Looking forward to the help and Advice!
post #2 of 10
Here is what i would do i'd grab a i5 2500K second hand for 175 or less. Water cooling i think your probably on the right track also I would grab another 4GB of Ram. I've read some where that putting SSD in raid 0 makes you lose trim support and is less stable and you only get small boost of performance but this is OCN.
    
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Is buying second hand CPU's reliable, I have always been weary of purchasing used items, whether it be a car, speakers, or a cpu...

any particular order you feel would be best to upgrade in? I only do undergraduate research so this may take a while, but I plan to make it last me a few years in the long run if that's possible.
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Is buying second hand CPU's reliable, I have always been weary of purchasing used items, whether it be a car, speakers, or a cpu...
any particular order you feel would be best to upgrade in? I only do undergraduate research so this may take a while, but I plan to make it last me a few years in the long run if that's possible.

I would probably jump on the cpu but only if its a K series for i could OC but you will need some cooling, also the market here on ocn is a great place to find second hand parts, most people will not screw there reputation.
    
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Just updated my bios and will be purchasing an i7 3770k for a good deal from a friend in the new year. Until then I plan on purchasing the XSPC Raystorm Ex420 kit. this should provide a good base kit with room to add more components in the future.

now that my bios is more stable, I may play with some Samsung 30nm Ram....see where I can get them to if I purchase a set. I bought a set for a rig I am building for my parents, maybe I will give them my gskill, worst case I spent 3 weeks with ram I don't love and can get it back over winter break.

I read up on trim and raid configurations and you were right, right now trim is supported... so I will probably add my gpu to the loop early next year instead of any more SDD purchases... I know the i7 is overkill, but for the price I cannot pass it up.
post #6 of 10
Sandy Bridge overclocks better/cooler than Ivy and is cheaper thumb.gif

Raid 0 would bring negligible improvements to most games, with the loss of TRIM. You could put the extra cost towards a 4GB 670, just in case you want to upgrade to one of those nifty Korean 1440p monitors down the line.
post #7 of 10
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would 1 4gb 670 be better than sli'd 670 ftws since I already have one?

I read something about "garbage collector" on raid ssd's... do you know anything about that, performance wise or anything?
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Sandy Bridge overclocks better/cooler than Ivy and is cheaper

I'm going to be better a deal to make it worth it wink.gif besides, it'll be nice to take advantage of the pci-3, although I'm not quite sure I'll ever need all that bandwidth
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those nifty Korean 1440p monitors

I've heard nothing but good things about them biggrin.gif Eventually smile.gif
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would 1 4gb 670 be better than sli'd 670 ftws since I already have one?
I read something about "garbage collector" on raid ssd's... do you know anything about that, performance wise or anything?
I'm going to be better a deal to make it worth it wink.gif besides, it'll be nice to take advantage of the pci-3, although I'm not quite sure I'll ever need all that bandwidth
I've heard nothing but good things about them biggrin.gif Eventually smile.gif

A single 670 with 4GB would better than SLI in these 3 cases.

1. The game uses alot more Vram than most games (and when you SLI two 2GB cards the memory does not combine, you will only have 2 GB)
2. you use a multiple monitor setup (higher res = more vram usage)
3. new game comes out and has issues with SLI (in this case either only one card works or the game will not work at all unless you take out the other card)

However 670 SLI would give you really good performance, probably around 20% faster than a single GTX 680

My knowledge on SSDs isn't that great, can't help there.

PCIE-3 is worthless in the case of Graphics cards, hard drives/SSDs are a different case though.
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Originally Posted by 1623 View Post

would 1 4gb 670 be better than sli'd 670 ftws since I already have one?
I read something about "garbage collector" on raid ssd's... do you know anything about that, performance wise or anything?
I'm going to be better a deal to make it worth it wink.gif besides, it'll be nice to take advantage of the pci-3, although I'm not quite sure I'll ever need all that bandwidth
I've heard nothing but good things about them biggrin.gif Eventually smile.gif

Yeah, I have an Asus GTX 670 2GB. It's a great card, plays everything I throw at it. If I had the choice though, I would go back and pick a 4GB version - that way, I know that it won't have any issues for the next couple of years at all. I just finished playing BF3 and it was using 1.7GB VRAM @1080p.

One 2GB card would be the same as 4GB. The only problem is if it doesn't have enough VRAM, then you will lose fps. It's unlikely now, but who knows how much games will use VRAM nerxt year?
I would get the one 4GB 670, it's more than enough for now, then get a second whn needed.
post #10 of 10
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I just spent the $400 on the gpu this summer, so I think I'll wait to upgrade that when I encounter a game which needs more vram. I'm graduating college this spring so hopefully I'll be landing a decent job and use some of that to do some major rig building smile.gif For now I'm leaning more on the lines of getting a basic WC loop in, then maybe getting some Samsung Ram...followed by the new cpu early next year. From what i've heard from an intel engineer, is Haswell has been more engineered to improve on the integrated graphics and that as long as I have a decent dedicated card (which I do) that the ivy would be perfectly fine for anything, and probably save a few dollars smile.gif

But when I do get a regular job...I now know that higher vram gpu's are the way to go, as well as replacing my mobo... It's kinda funny seeing my mATX GeneZ in the Switch tongue.gif
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