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Originally Posted by CM MR HAF View Post

It will be our pleasure to give the answers since CMUSA was deeply involved with the HAF Xb project.
1. The reason why is we had to stay true to our roots as DIY enthusiast chassis. One of the mockup HAF Xb's last year had a removable filter frame that was in the front panel and pulled out the top, on paper it was great but in reality some of the mechanical engineers brought some issues to our attention. If we kept the front filter we would lose 140mm front fan support. Some of our international focus groups complained they needed much more space to mount fans outside the frame of the chassis. The people who complained the most used 27-30mm thick radiators which need fans on both sides for acceptable performance. So we kept the massive room for a radiator and 2 sets of fans on both sides. We had to put the filter on the front panel because there was nowhere else to put it.
2. There isn't enough space to do two 3.5" drive cages in the area you mention. Once you get your HAF Xb, try to take some measurements. We reserved the space so you will have just enough cable management if you can't afford a modular power supply. As it is now, we had to make the 2.5" HDD cages removable because some PSUs have huge masses of cables.
3. Its a TRAP!
Seriously, this cable management hole was added at the last revision before production by our engineers. Their reason was that if you never removed the motherboard tray, you could use the port for some audio or USB cable. Functionally, we have more than enough cable tie downs on the side of the rail that you should never need to use this. We joke its a trap because whatever you stuff through that hole, you have to unstuff it because it will block the motherboard tray from being removed. You should never be using this hole if you want to use the HAF Xb removable motherboard tray since it will cost you 5 mins of time.
4. We're a big company and tiny pieces of acrylic wander off by themselves.
5. Its an issue of the strength of the mesh attachment. The top panel mesh attaches in the same way as an acrylic window would with plastic push pins. These pins could fail if you put a heavy weight on them like a radiator. There are plenty of other good places for radiators.
6. Nobody we surveyed wanted to pay more for the rubber grommets on the holes in the back. Our research found people use these holes for things we don't intend, and don't use them anymore. Remember Olivia Munn and G4TV?

Thanks for taking your time to answer questions here on OCN. I appreciate it when vendors get involved on this forum.

I had my eyes on this case for a little rig I intend to build myself, alongside my regular rig. Think this case will work nicely for at least a few years.
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I love the fact that the mobo is horizontal but this isn't for me. I have a tendency to put stuff on top of my case haha tongue.gif
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post #103 of 146
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I love the fact that the mobo is horizontal but this isn't for me. I have a tendency to put stuff on top of my case haha tongue.gif
At least you don't have a test bench. tongue.gif
post #104 of 146
I NEED IT.

I was hoping to do something responsible with my next paycheck, but I'm afraid that that's not going to happen any more.
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post #105 of 146
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Originally Posted by CM MR HAF View Post

*snip* (Click to show)
It will be our pleasure to give the answers since CMUSA was deeply involved with the HAF Xb project.
1. The reason why is we had to stay true to our roots as DIY enthusiast chassis. One of the mockup HAF Xb's last year had a removable filter frame that was in the front panel and pulled out the top, on paper it was great but in reality some of the mechanical engineers brought some issues to our attention. If we kept the front filter we would lose 140mm front fan support. Some of our international focus groups complained they needed much more space to mount fans outside the frame of the chassis. The people who complained the most used 27-30mm thick radiators which need fans on both sides for acceptable performance. So we kept the massive room for a radiator and 2 sets of fans on both sides. We had to put the filter on the front panel because there was nowhere else to put it.

3. Its a TRAP!
Seriously, this cable management hole was added at the last revision before production by our engineers. Their reason was that if you never removed the motherboard tray, you could use the port for some audio or USB cable. Functionally, we have more than enough cable tie downs on the side of the rail that you should never need to use this. We joke its a trap because whatever you stuff through that hole, you have to unstuff it because it will block the motherboard tray from being removed. You should never be using this hole if you want to use the HAF Xb removable motherboard tray since it will cost you 5 mins of time.
4. We're a big company and tiny pieces of acrylic wander off by themselves.
5. Its an issue of the strength of the mesh attachment. The top panel mesh attaches in the same way as an acrylic window would with plastic push pins. These pins could fail if you put a heavy weight on them like a radiator. There are plenty of other good places for radiators.
6. Nobody we surveyed wanted to pay for the rubber grommets on the holes in the back. Our research found people use these holes for things we don't intend, and don't use them anymore. Remember Olivia Munn and G4TV?
2. There isn't enough space to do two 3.5" drive cages in the area you mention. Once you get your HAF Xb, try to take some measurements. We reserved the space so you will have just enough cable management if you can't afford a modular power supply. As it is now, we had to make the 2.5" HDD cages removable because some PSUs have huge masses of cables.

So, the 3.5 bays are removable so your 1500w psu would fit down there biggrin.gif?

Ultra tempting. I keep fighting my finger from clicking on the buy button redface.gif
post #106 of 146
This is easily the best picture of this case biggrin.gif

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This case has so much potential, i may not be the biggest fan of the HAF looks, but there's no accounting for taste. And were on OCN where people do all sort of amazing mods, just mod it to your personal taste. thumb.gif
post #108 of 146
Hello my fellow OCN'ers,

If you are interested in the new Xb case and/ or plan on owning one yourself, then stop by and visit The Cooler Master HAF-XB Case Clubhouse.thumb.gif

Check it out: here

Best Regards,

~T77~
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post #109 of 146
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Originally Posted by t77snapshot View Post

Hello my fellow OCN'ers,

If you are interested in the new Xb case and/ or plan on owning one yourself, then stop by and visit The Cooler Master HAF-XB Case Clubhouse.thumb.gif

Check it out: here

Best Regards,

~T77~

i'm getting one by the end of the month biggrin.gif so may check out the club biggrin.gif
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post #110 of 146
Just got paid I would buy one of these if it wasn't for the $21.45 shipping from newegg xD
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