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The HAF series has its critics. But please leave this thread open for those interested or looking to discuss this case in a positive manner. If you don't like it, just move on. Why continue to saturate this thread with hate?!?!?!?!?

edit: not single out ppl, just saying its putting ppl off because of this negative tone some are given this thread.
Edited by wermad - 11/17/12 at 9:16pm
post #92 of 146
I hate this thing yet it's crazily functional.
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The HAF series has its critics. But please leave this thread open for those interested or looking to discuss this case in a positive manner. If you don't like it, just move on. Why continue to saturate this thread with hate?!?!?!?!?
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Its a fine line between "constructive" and just being a negative nancy as what most of the haters of this case sound like. When half a thread is filled with "Eww ugyl...it suxorz! and OMGz so lamez and stupid design, CM needs to die" style posts, I don't consider that constructive at all. Hell, the poor CM rep had to come in and attempt to lighten up the mood of the thread and viewpoint of the product.
Yeah, the people who are just saying that it's ugly aren't really doing anything productive.
I do like the direction that this case may take the market in. Cooler Master's product aesthetics philosophy has never appealed to me, but I hope that this will be influential enough to make it so that there is more competition than that $500 XPSC case against this.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 11/17/12 at 9:33pm
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People are weird in general and will get jelly easily and that usually equates to getting mad which then almost always results in them criticing everyone and every little thing. Even more so on the web thanks to anonymity. In the end, i'll just add people who are so vocal against the case to my ignore list, cause they obviously don't have better things to do. Guess their mothers or lack thereof never taught em "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"
Oh they can have their opinion, thats fine and dandy, I just don't care to hear em if all there gonna say is negative stuff wink.gif

We are well beyond that this day and age, we are in an age of over opinionated hip gun slingers.

I see what you are saying but it's the case that there will be more going against than those that go with......well that is the case "pun intended" here on OCN.


I have to say I love the layout, I love it sick....the front face plate is ugly as sin "to me that is"...but in this instance I would look past that to see what I could do with the face so that I could have the internal layout.

But as people have said, I hope this entices other case manufactures to do the same.
post #96 of 146
HAF series been around since late 2008

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2008/10/16/cooler-master-haf-932/1

People still complaining about appearance in late 2012
post #97 of 146
Just to add, calling peoples haters jelly, and having bad taste makes isn't the best approach on "hurr durr ugly case lolol," which is actually very subtle and nonvocal in this thread. Target the idea, not the people. Wermadi's approach to addressing the comments on the appearance a few pages back was well-put IMO.
Edited by AbdullahG - 11/17/12 at 10:56pm
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I want one, badly. Very badly frown.gif
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So... HAF X humps PC353? I dunno, not terribly excited about laying an ATX case on its side. headscratch.gif
    
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However, Corsair, Antec, Silverstone have lacked in anything that really catchs my eyes for my needs and desires. Mostly, I'm REALLY picking with my cases.
1. Why bother putting in a front fan filter when it requires the user to manually have to remove all 3 side panels and then unclip 7 freaking clips to remove the entire FRONT benzel to get at? Why was there no simple design to slide the filter in and out from the sides like Silverstones SG08 Tamjin?
2. I honestly don't see why you couldn't have made the secondary drive cage to hold 3.5'' and 2.5'' HDD's and simply give the user the OPTION to user either drive size with rails and or adapters. SSD's still aint cheap and most people still use standard 3.5'' HDD and will for the forseeable future.

3. More cable routting holes in the motherboard would have made obvious sense, so why only one?
4. Why not give users the option of just buying the window itself for the top panel instead of requiring people to pay for an entire front panel at a higher price?

5. For the watercoolers, why didn't you allow the top panel mesh to have 120/140mm fan mounts like you have in so many other cases? I really don't find any reason to leave that out
6. Couldn't you have thrown in some rubber seals so if people do use the rear water cooling holes after punching out the covers, the bare metal won't possibly cut the tubing?

Again, im really excited to get this case and give it a looks and play around with it on Monday, but these were burning questions I had and it seems like people don't get responses very fast from your forums, so I thought i'd ask you directly here.

It will be our pleasure to give the answers since CMUSA was deeply involved with the HAF Xb project.

1. The reason why is we had to stay true to our roots as DIY enthusiast chassis. One of the mockup HAF Xb's last year had a removable filter frame that was in the front panel and pulled out the top, on paper it was great but in reality some of the mechanical engineers brought some issues to our attention. If we kept the front filter we would lose 140mm front fan support. Some of our international focus groups complained they needed much more space to mount fans outside the frame of the chassis. The people who complained the most used 27-30mm thick radiators which need fans on both sides for acceptable performance. So we kept the massive room for a radiator and 2 sets of fans on both sides. We had to put the filter on the front panel because there was nowhere else to put it.

2. There isn't enough space to do two 3.5" drive cages in the area you mention. Once you get your HAF Xb, try to take some measurements. We reserved the space so you will have just enough cable management if you can't afford a modular power supply. As it is now, we had to make the 2.5" HDD cages removable because some PSUs have huge masses of cables.

3. Its a TRAP!

Seriously, this cable management hole was added at the last revision before production by our engineers. Their reason was that if you never removed the motherboard tray, you could use the port for some audio or USB cable. Functionally, we have more than enough cable tie downs on the side of the rail that you should never need to use this. We joke its a trap because whatever you stuff through that hole, you have to unstuff it because it will block the motherboard tray from being removed. You should never be using this hole if you want to use the HAF Xb removable motherboard tray since it will cost you 5 mins of time.

4. We're a big company and tiny pieces of acrylic wander off by themselves.

5. Its an issue of the strength of the mesh attachment. The top panel mesh attaches in the same way as an acrylic window would with plastic push pins. These pins could fail if you put a heavy weight on them like a radiator. There are plenty of other good places for radiators.

6. Nobody we surveyed wanted to pay for the rubber grommets on the holes in the back. Our research found people use these holes for things we don't intend, and don't use them anymore. Remember Olivia Munn and G4TV?


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