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post #51 of 88
11/15/12 at 1:31am
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I always fail to see how having a branch for consumer level products is by any means a bad thing. Once you get past the start up costs and continually generate revenue equal or greater to your expenditures, where's the harm? It increases your portfolio, as well as promote the strength of your brand. Besides liability and risk factors I don't see what would be so bad about it...

It takes away resources from what could be used on a larger market. You might get your money back by giving products to consumers but if they spend the money, researchers, production, etc. on their larger contracts their profit margins go up.

It's not a "bad" thing. There's just more money to be had elsewhere as consumers don't tend to pay massive amounts for products like a corporation can. Let another company dumb down and cheapen a high quality product to sell for consumer use.
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11/15/12 at 4:21am
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It takes away resources from what could be used on a larger market. You might get your money back by giving products to consumers but if they spend the money, researchers, production, etc. on their larger contracts their profit margins go up.
It's not a "bad" thing. There's just more money to be had elsewhere as consumers don't tend to pay massive amounts for products like a corporation can. Let another company dumb down and cheapen a high quality product to sell for consumer use.

Ok at the risk of looking like an anarchist revolutionary (again), and not to point this comment at IBM specifically (again), but does it bother anyone else that in terms of total purchasing power, business as a whole exceeds that of consumers as a whole?
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post #53 of 88
11/15/12 at 6:55am
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I always fail to see how having a branch for consumer level products is by any means a bad thing. Once you get past the start up costs and continually generate revenue equal or greater to your expenditures, where's the harm? It increases your portfolio, as well as promote the strength of your brand. Besides liability and risk factors I don't see what would be so bad about it...

Selling more products lines means increase logisitics, customer services levels, management, risk, etc. Business can get too large. They begin to lose focus and it becomes harder for them to change directions.

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Ok at the risk of looking like an anarchist revolutionary (again), and not to point this comment at IBM specifically (again), but does it bother anyone else that in terms of total purchasing power, business as a whole exceeds that of consumers as a whole?
It's not about market size alone.

Most tech companies rather sell high-margin products to savvy market that builds very strong relationships rather than very low-margin products to an uninformed market who are fickle.

Do you want to sell a $100K server and support to a single company.... or 1000 $1K computers and support to 1000 people?
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11/15/12 at 7:47am
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Ok at the risk of looking like an anarchist revolutionary (again), and not to point this comment at IBM specifically (again), but does it bother anyone else that in terms of total purchasing power, business as a whole exceeds that of consumers as a whole?

No. Where I work cash flow is an order of magnitude greater than labour costs. One business operated by five people has the spending power of dozens of consumers.
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post #55 of 88
11/15/12 at 9:53am
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No. Where I work cash flow is an order of magnitude greater than labour costs. One business operated by five people has the spending power of dozens of consumers.

I think you missed the point of my question.
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post #56 of 88
11/15/12 at 10:03am
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More than likely it's due to ignorance. Those people don't realize that IBM is still a major player in the IT world, especially in the systems architecture/ consulting/ datacenter fields. They probably think it's just an "old " hardware vendor from the 80s rolleyes.gif

Indeed. My dad knows only a little bit about computers but he always praised IBM when I was a child, and my ancient IBM laptop with 128MB RAM worked fine, until some half-wit decided to put loads of modern software and bloatware on it. On windows XP no less.
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post #57 of 88
11/15/12 at 10:28am
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Someone care to tell me why we have so much IBM hate here? I'm really curious.

Young people who don't know IBM's history.
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post #58 of 88
11/15/12 at 10:34am
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Young people who don't know IBM's history.

Pretty much this.

IBM gets to take a lot of credit when it comes to pioneering personal computers, servers, microprocessors... pretty much anything digital.
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post #59 of 88
11/15/12 at 10:36am
There's no IBM hate here.
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post #60 of 88
11/15/12 at 4:58pm
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No. Where I work cash flow is an order of magnitude greater than labour costs. One business operated by five people has the spending power of dozens of consumers.

I think you missed the point of my question.

That there's a whole lot of tech and services that completely ignore common people because we couldn't even dream of affording it?
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