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post #91 of 151
I'll be interested to see your results. I really just wanted to post a pic of the pretty Task Manager in Win 8. Now I'm stuck folding this SMP work unit I picked up for the next 13 hours. lachen.gif
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post #92 of 151
I can't yet do the test myself with the V7 client as they have not yet updated to run my GTX560 SE properly yet. as soon as they do(this next update) I will run the client both ways and see what the results are.
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I'm going to wait a few days because I don't want to lose my progress on this huge wu that's taking forever to fold on my CPU.

 
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So, here is a little proof for you guys on leaving 1 core open:

X6 -smp 6 with 2x 460's
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-smp 5

I can't believe that caused me to re-fold that stupid SMP project sozo.gif


OK, see how your GPU was all over the place in the first pic? Mine doesn't do that, even with all 8 threads of the CPU being used for the SMP client. My GPUs still show 99% being used. See the pics below:





On top of that, when I do put one thread of the CPU designated for the GPU, my CPU PPD drops to 3k PPD. I don't know why it is such a drastic change (as it is usually around 15k with these new crappy WUs) but just one thread killed my CPU folding. And I saw no change in my GPU folding. I didn't do a real thorough test (only let it run for about 5 hours), but from what I could see, it really hurt my PPD rather than help it.

I think, it looks anyway, like it may depend on your CPU / GPU combo. If you see that your GPU usage is all over the place (as in BWG's top pic), the you need to designate a core/thread for the GPU(s). If the GPU is showing a steady 99% usage, then you don't need the designated core/thread.


Also, I wonder, since yours is an AMD CPU, if that has anything to do with it? Mine is an Intel 2700k. Maybe there is a difference in the CPU client that is making this necessary for you, and it has nothing to do with the GPU client. Just a thought.
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I believe it has something to do with AMD vs Intel to be honest redface.gif

 

1 GPU and the CPU on -smp 6 utilized 99% of the GPU.

 
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I managed to get 8 cores working in vm thanks to Mutts video thumb.gif, but I have to fold in the vm with only 6 cores or my gpu usage fluctuates, even if I set smp cpu usage down to 75%. I can fold on all 8 in windows and gpu usage stays at 100% but some reason I can't in a vm

But even on just 6 cores in the VM it still gets 2k more ppd then 8 cores in windows so im happy, although I would be happier with 8 biggrin.gif
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I think it's safe to say leaving a core open is a possibility depending on your CPU power and CPU activity based on what programs you run. redface.gif

 
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I managed to get 8 cores working in vm thanks to Mutts video thumb.gif, but I have to fold in the vm with only 6 cores or my gpu usage fluctuates, even if I set smp cpu usage down to 75%. I can fold on all 8 in windows and gpu usage stays at 100% but some reason I can't in a vm
But even on just 6 cores in the VM it still gets 2k more ppd then 8 cores in windows so im happy, although I would be happier with 8 biggrin.gif

Is that even with setting the priority of the VM Player to low? (One of Mutt's video's) I have an 8800GT with 8 cores running in VM/Linux on a 3770 just fine with GPU usage at 99% most of the time. The GPU core takes 1% every other second or so and the VM goes down.
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Just tried that and my gpu usage stayed 99% with 8 cores, but TPF on the 3770k with 8 cores and low priority actually fell lower then with 6 cores and a normal priority, so I'll just leave it at 6 cores for now and I'll play around with it a little more when I get home from work
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I managed to get 8 cores working in vm thanks to Mutts video thumb.gif, but I have to fold in the vm with only 6 cores or my gpu usage fluctuates, even if I set smp cpu usage down to 75%. I can fold on all 8 in windows and gpu usage stays at 100% but some reason I can't in a vm
But even on just 6 cores in the VM it still gets 2k more ppd then 8 cores in windows so im happy, although I would be happier with 8 biggrin.gif

Glad to hear that it (kinda) worked for you...see further comments below...

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Is that even with setting the priority of the VM Player to low? (One of Mutt's video's) I have an 8800GT with 8 cores running in VM/Linux on a 3770 just fine with GPU usage at 99% most of the time. The GPU core takes 1% every other second or so and the VM goes down.

Yeah, this is how mine works as well, but that 1% every couple of seconds should not have a very large effect on PPD.

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Just tried that and my gpu usage stayed 99% with 8 cores, but TPF on the 3770k with 8 cores and low priority actually fell lower then with 6 cores and a normal priority, so I'll just leave it at 6 cores for now and I'll play around with it a little more when I get home from work

This is interesting to me, I’ve not seen this before. What client are you using for the GPUs? Is it possible that this client is not set to “Low” priority as well? That could be causing the issue, but if both the VM and the GPU client are at “Low” priority and you have either the “advmethods” or “beta” flag on the GPU, it should not have a negative impact on the CPU.
Now if you are running the GPU client without either of these flags, then that makes sense, as the admethods / beta WUs don’t draw hardly any CPU power, but the non – advmethods / beta GPU WUs do use quite a bit of CPU resources. This has been my understanding, anyway.

Honestly, it has been so long since I have folding without having a GPU folding in my rig as well, mine could be hurting my CPU PPD and I would never know it. Frankly, though, as far as I’m concerned, so long as my GPUs keep pumping out the kind of PPD that they are right now, I could care less what they do to my CPU!

However, when I tried to cut one thread from my VM and dedicate that to my GPUs, my PPD on my CPU dropped down to about 3K PPD (not by 3K, but down to 3k), so I added all threads back to the CPU and now everything seems to be humming along as it should!

Anyway, if you find something different, please share it with us, I’m eager to see what works and what doesn’t for different CPU / GPU combinations. thumb.gif


Also, a question to the masses...

I'm just wondering, does the v7 client in Linux allow for GPU folding without much / any tweeking? I’m thinking of adding a GPU to one of my Linux rigs, but before I do, I want to find out what is involved to get it to fold. If you guys could point me toward any resources, that would be awesome! Thanks all!!!
Edited by WonderMutt - 12/3/12 at 11:49am
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Overclock.net › Forums › Overclockers Care › Overclock.net Folding@Home Team › Folding@Home Guides and Tutorials › nVidia v7 Guide for Folding Beta Project 8057 - Expired!!!