[Zdnet]AMD "We are not for sale" - Page 5

But what are these bringing over the new ones? Better graphics? Somewhat, but the jump isn't nearly as large as the previous generation.

Also, what games are coming out on them? That'd be a pretty huge driver for console sales.
Edited by Homeles - 11/14/12 at 5:37pm

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Tangentially-related question: how lucrative is designing the console chips going to be for AMD? I would think margins on the chips would be pretty low considering the price of consoles compared with the price of gaming PCs. Unless the console manufacturers pay them a lump sum rather than per-chip.
Edited by PiOfPie - 11/14/12 at 6:32pm

No its not, you'd have wanted someone like IBM or Samsung to buy them. You know someone that makes more than an Operating income of $824 million when their competitor is making an Operating income of $17.5 billion. They simply dont have the money to compete man. You can't do R and D and engineering on an effective competitive level when your competition spends more on R and D than your entire company even brings in before taxes and expenses.


Yes there is and AMD's is about 12 billion.


Refer to my first response.


100 billion? I almost spit my coke out. It is worth 12 billion on a good day. I bet you could could get them for 6. If Lucasfilms went for 4. AMD can easily be owned for 800 million LOL. But seriously, 6 billion and you could be the proud new owner of Advanced Micro Devices. IBM, Samsung. I am waiting.


I mentioned Samsung in this post but I had honestly never considered that until you posted it. Oh, and Intel would HAVE to transfer the x86 license unless they want the crap sued out of them by the U.S. Govt.

And the U.S. would force them to transfer it or sell it for a very reasonable price to whomever bought AMD.

The margins are very low. I don't even think IBM bid on them this time because it really wasn't worth their time and expense to do that.

AMD just said that they are not for sale and you guys still argue what company should buy them.

i need to stay away from theses garbage reads.

so long as the buyer, invests in share of AMD, buys it by aquiring outstanding shares, then Intel hasn't got a leg to stand on with the x86 liscense. If the company is disolved, de-incorporated and liquidated, Intel can pull x86 shannaigans.

Based on the reading I've done, more people may be coming into gaming, but it's also pulling the casual gamers away from consoles. It doesn't seem to have anything to do with how long the consoles have been out either. COD's sales is a good example of that; people will still buy games they want, just not nearly as many want to buy games on consoles. Unfortunately, COD is not enough to keep the whole segment afloat.

Console games used to be oriented around many people in one room playing on one screen together. Now all (or most) of the multiplayer games are only online and one player on a screen at a time; people aren't as worried about being able to play on a huge screen anymore. Tablets and phones are rapidly becoming more and more powerful every day, so paying $60 for a game is becoming less and less attractive, particularly to the casual gamers that hardly play their console. Surprisingly, this is still a large segment of the console market. The hardcore COD players aren't as common as their sales lead people to believe. Plus, most tablets have the ability to be played on a TV, and bluetooth allows controllers to be hooked up wirelessly. Hell, I play Zelda: Ocarina of Time on my ASUS Transformer attached to my TV using my PS3 controller.

I've purchased a console from every generation, and this will be the first generation where I don't see a reason to, and I think a lot of people will follow suit.

This isn't new information, if you Google it, people have been talking about it for months. It's an interesting time, and I think that Sony and Microsoft are aware of the changes. I believe this is part of the reason they aren't being as aggressive on the hardware front as they were with the previous generation. Time will tell, but I really don't foresee console gaming remaining relevant for much longer.
Edited by SectorNine50 - 11/14/12 at 7:51pm

The HD 4000 on the newer intel chips would be more than enough for modern consoles with good optimisation, and if it's true that the next generation is twice as fast as the current HD 4000 then they should be taken pretty seriously.

AMD's APUs will always be faster.