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What are you doing with this pc? If you want help you have to tell people that much. If you're gaming you don't need 16gb of ram... you don't even need half that, but it's the accepted overkill for gaming and if one module goes bad you still have 4gb. (i rarely get close to 4gb)
PSU should do it.. there are better models in that price range (and less iirc) - check the psu section of this site for a list of good brands & models.
And btw, a "budget rig" is a rig that you build on a low budget... not a $1400 build with top of the line cpu and gpu.

$1400 is relatively "budget", from what I've seen around here.

16GB is overkill for today's games, but it's so cheap it can't hurt to have it for the future, not to mention for other programs.
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This is the 4GB version of the GTX 680, and I think the 7970 only goes up to 3GB. Tbh, I think by the time a multi-monitor setup becomes feasible, I will have at least changed my GPU once.

yea i know but the 680 only has a 284 bit bus width while the 7970 and 7950 have a 384 bit bus width. I dont know exactly how to explain it but bigger number is better here for sure
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What are you doing with this pc? If you want help you have to tell people that much. If you're gaming you don't need 16gb of ram... you don't even need half that, but it's the accepted overkill for gaming and if one module goes bad you still have 4gb. (i rarely get close to 4gb)
PSU should do it.. there are better models in that price range (and less iirc) - check the psu section of this site for a list of good brands & models.
And btw, a "budget rig" is a rig that you build on a low budget... not a $1400 build with top of the line cpu and gpu.

for some reason i sometimes get to 5gb with mechwarriors or crysis or something else. Ram is so cheap now so why not? Who cares? lol biggrin.gif

yea budget is roughly, id say >$600 but quite some number of us have quite a bit of money and i personally am almost broke lol
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Rig is in link: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/nK8h
I have a 1TB HDD and a 120GB ADATA SSD laying around so that should suffice for the storage.
looking at this for the optical drive but couldn't find it on pcpartpicker: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136246
I plan to add a second 680 sometime in the future, could someone comment on whether my PSU is adequate?
I will be using this mostly for 1080p gaming, but I want to upgrade to higher-res monitors and multiple monitors as finances permit.
Thanks!Looking to keep the total as low as I can without compromising on the CPU and GPU. Any advice is welcome.
Thanks!
EDIT: what do you guys think about the cooler? I heard there was some sort of fault with the H80 that caused the thermal compound to come off? Any truth to this?

 

You are paying a price premium solely for aesthetics, and there is a risk that you will get a noisy pump (unless it's been fixed). It does perform well, but you would get more silence and reliability with a air cooler such as the silver arrow or the d14.

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yea i know but the 680 only has a 284 bit bus width while the 7970 and 7950 have a 384 bit bus width. I dont know exactly how to explain it but bigger number is better here for sure

That is something to consider, but won't the 7970 run weaker at 1080p than the 680?
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That is something to consider, but won't the 7970 run weaker at 1080p than the 680?

Well they are pretty balanced in most games with the exception with the amd or nvidia sponsored game. Once u start increasing resolution, the 7970 starts to pull ahead
    
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You are paying a price premium solely for aesthetics, and there is a risk that you will get a noisy pump (unless it's been fixed). It does perform well, but you would get more silence and reliability with a air cooler such as the silver arrow or the d14.
The last time I paid a premium for aesthetics is when I bought my Alienware, and I regretted that alot, especially after frying the mobo tongue.gif

How do air coolers compare to closed-loop water coolers? Noise is a secondary concern
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Well they are pretty balanced in most games with the exception with the amd or nvidia sponsored game. Once u start increasing resolution, the 7970 starts to pull ahead
What about the drivers? I had a bad experience with AMD back when they were ATI.
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The last time I paid a premium for aesthetics is when I bought my Alienware, and I regretted that alot, especially after frying the mobo tongue.gif
How do air coolers compare to closed-loop water coolers? Noise is a secondary concern

quite decently. water does perform better but is quite a bit louder.
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What about the drivers? I had a bad experience with AMD back when they were ATI.

the 12.X catalyst drivers seem to be pretty good. I read they arent as terrible as they were before
    
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quite decently. water does perform better but is quite a bit louder.
the 12.X catalyst drivers seem to be pretty good. I read they arent as terrible as they were before

I'll go through some benchmarks and reconsider the graphics card, then.
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Well they are pretty balanced in most games with the exception with the amd or nvidia sponsored game. Once u start increasing resolution, the 7970 starts to pull ahead

This is very true.

Moreover, since the cards are so closes, it really comes down to how lucky you are on the overclock. For instance, my GTX 670 perform better than my now sold 7970, due to a bad overclock.

 

 


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The last time I paid a premium for aesthetics is when I bought my Alienware, and I regretted that alot, especially after frying the mobo tongue.gif
How do air coolers compare to closed-loop water coolers? Noise is a secondary concern
 
The corsair H100 give the same performance than the D14 or the SA.
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