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I've got small fingers and the keyboards look so nice. Currently I'm using a Microsoft Comfort 2000 keyboard and it suits me fine. I just want an upgrade that looks nice. At 50 dollars, I can also get a Razer Lycosa Mechanical Keyboard, but I would like to avoid the problems that some people have with them. I doubt that the Apple Keyboard will have too many problems since its used for their expensive flagship Mac computers. I was just wondering if there would be any problems with my idea?

I've read about how older versions couldn't be used for online shooters because they would only register two key presses at a time. However, that was in 2010 and I'm fairly sure the newer ones would be fixed by now.

They look nice and feel nice and I currently plan to buy one during Black Friday when there could possibly be a sale on them.
post #2 of 16
Okay I am just borderline calling this troll.

But to answer your question, they are probably horrible for gaming. They have pretty shallow keystrokes, and you will probably have a lot of accidental key strikes. If anything keep your current keyboard. Mechanical keyboard would be a great improvement though.
    
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Go mechanical and you'll never go back. Trust me. I thought it was hype until I bought one. ERMERRRRRGERRRRDDD
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Having owned and used several I can say that they are definitely not worth bothering with. The keystrokes are very shallow with a "squishy" feel and it's just all around very uncomfortable and unwieldy to use. Being white, the keys also stain very easily so after prolonged use they'll turn yellow-grey and look disgusting.

That said, I would also avoid Razer and invest in a real mechanical keyboard. Going that route you won't be disappointed.
post #5 of 16
World's most awful keyboard. Having fat fingers and being a mechanical keyboard user, I can attest to say this is quite possibly the worst keyboard I have ever typed on. So uncomfortable and there's almost no tactile feel. With that said, it wouldn't be very good for gaming.
Edited by pjBSOD - 11/14/12 at 11:47pm
post #6 of 16
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My fingers are small though and delicate. I don't have many problems finding keys and stuff while playing and the Chiclet key option seems like a nice choice.
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If your fingers are "small and delicate" you absolutely want to avoid the Apple keyboards then. They are low-profile scissor switch keyboards that have a relatively high actuation force, and very limited travel distance. The keyboard is rigidly made, and being rubber-dome keyboards, you are required to bottom out on the keys when typing.

This means you will be putting a lot of force into your fingers when typing with them.
As someone who has been experiencing pain in their fingers from typing all day, I can tell you that buying a scissor-switch keyboard was the worst decision I made, as it exacerbated the problems considerably. (I had been using Macs a lot, and bought a Logitech K750 for my PC)


The Apple keys are also completely flat, which I find horrible to type on. I have never liked them since they switched away from the old Silver MacBook Pro keyboard design, which had sculpted keys and from memory at least, required less force to actuate. (or maybe they were just less rigid)

It's interesting, because I just recently went to use one of our MacBooks here, after having not typed on one for a couple of months since getting my HHKB2-S and I literally couldn't type on it. I was all over the keyboard, because there's no tactile feedback for where your fingers are (flat keys) and missing keystrokes.

While a Topre keyboard is outside of your budget (I find them to be the nicest on your fingers, as they are tactile with a medium force required to actuate, and have rubber to "cushion" your fingers if you do bottom out - though being mechanical, you are not required to) I would definitely recommend a mechanical keyboard over any of the low profile rubber dome/scissor-type keyboards, which all have a low travel distance, high actuation force, and offer no cushioning for your fingers.

A standard mechanical switch has a medium-to-low actuation force, has 4mm of travel, and actuates at 2mm so you are not required to bottom out. And even if you do bottom out, it's softer on your fingers due to the extended travel distance. PCB-mounted switches are also softer than plate-mounted, and people have also reported that putting small rubber O-rings on the caps also softens the force when bottoming out. You will also be a much better typist on sculpted keycaps than the horrible flat Chiclet keys of a notebook keyboard.

While the keys may look similar to your Microsoft Comfort Keyboard, which is a rubber-dome keyboard, a mechanical keyboard feels nothing like that to type on.
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If your fingers are "small and delicate" you absolutely want to avoid the Apple keyboards then. They are low-profile scissor switch keyboards that have a relatively high actuation force, and very limited travel distance. The keyboard is rigidly made, and being rubber-dome keyboards, you are required to bottom out on the keys when typing.
This means you will be putting a lot of force into your fingers when typing with them.
As someone who has been experiencing pain in their fingers from typing all day, I can tell you that buying a scissor-switch keyboard was the worst decision I made, as it exacerbated the problems considerably. (I had been using Macs a lot, and bought a Logitech K750 for my PC)
The Apple keys are also completely flat, which I find horrible to type on. I have never liked them since they switched away from the old Silver MacBook Pro keyboard design, which had sculpted keys and from memory at least, required less force to actuate. (or maybe they were just less rigid)
It's interesting, because I just recently went to use one of our MacBooks here, after having not typed on one for a couple of months since getting my HHKB2-S and I literally couldn't type on it. I was all over the keyboard, because there's no tactile feedback for where your fingers are (flat keys) and missing keystrokes.
While a Topre keyboard is outside of your budget (I find them to be the nicest on your fingers, as they are tactile with a medium force required to actuate, and have rubber to "cushion" your fingers if you do bottom out - though being mechanical, you are not required to) I would definitely recommend a mechanical keyboard over any of the low profile rubber dome/scissor-type keyboards, which all have a low travel distance, high actuation force, and offer no cushioning for your fingers.
A standard mechanical switch has a medium-to-low actuation force, has 4mm of travel, and actuates at 2mm so you are not required to bottom out. And even if you do bottom out, it's softer on your fingers due to the extended travel distance. PCB-mounted switches are also softer than plate-mounted, and people have also reported that putting small rubber O-rings on the caps also softens the force when bottoming out. You will also be a much better typist on sculpted keycaps than the horrible flat Chiclet keys of a notebook keyboard.
While the keys may look similar to your Microsoft Comfort Keyboard, which is a rubber-dome keyboard, a mechanical keyboard feels nothing like that to type on.

I concur 100% with this. To surmise, Apple's keyboards, like most of their other products are purely form over function and in this case, to a particularly extreme degree it would seem.
post #9 of 16
I came here just to point out that razer lycosa isn't mechanical, but still propably is better for gaming than the apple keyboard. Just skip straight to the mechanical god tier of keyboards. There is no point in upgrading to anything else than mechanical if your keyboard still works and isn't absolutely horrible. Unless you want an lcd screen...
     
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Apple and gaming should not be used in the same paragraph. As others have pointed out, their keyboards are simply not suitable for anything gaming. Hell, their keyboards aren't even suitable for regular typing for that matter. I've also used those before I got my Das Keyboard, and I can attest to the Apple ones to be absolutely horrid. I couldn't last 2 hours at work with the damn thing. They just are not practical. Form over function to the greatest degree.

In your case, I would look for a smaller Cherry MX Red switch keyboard. I believe they have the lowest actuation force and are great for gaming. I'm thinking a Cooler Master QuickFire or something like that. It's apparent that you don't care for the number pad (because the Apple one doesn't have it, I think) so you can opt for the tenkeyless version. It might fit your fingers excellently.

CoolerMaster CM Storm QuickFire Rapid.

It's about $20 more than the Apple keyboard, but VASTLY superior. I'd first go to some electronics/computer parts store that carries it and have it on display so you can try it out before you buy.
Edited by wanako - 11/15/12 at 9:38am
     
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