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Who cares though? It's not like there's a gaming situation where the Ivy chip is going to be limiting you but the IB-E chip won't. At this point we've got enough CPU power, and adding more cores with IB-E isn't going to make any difference. By the time you need to replace an overclocked Ivy chip you'll probably want to move to a new platform anyway. Intel's strategy makes it easy to skip a generation (how many Lynnfield/Bloomfiled owners skipped Sandy, and how many Sandy owners have skipped Ivy?) so anyone buying now is unlikely to upgrade to Haswell (or IB-E), but is more likely to wait for whatever follows, which will almost certainly necessitate a platform change anyway.
You can argue the SB-E makes sense because it is the same price as Ivy, and you get the advantage of more PCIe lanes if you want multi-card solutions, but saying it is the right choice just because 1155 is being phased out isn't very compelling.

It is for me. I don't want to invest in a dying socket - why would you? I want the ability to upgrade by simply switching out my processor - not my motherboard and processor.
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It is for me. I don't want to invest in a dying socket - why would you? I want the ability to upgrade by simply switching out my processor - not my motherboard and processor.

Because, for the most part, it's a meaningless upgrade. Sure I can upgrade to a newer CPU, but if that CPU is only 10% faster than the one I have now (or in the case of overclocked Sandy/Ivy not even that) than what's the point. It's less of an issue now that you can get $300 i7-3820s, but buying into an older and more expensive platform just for the possibility of being able to do a drop-in CPU upgrade doesn't seem like a good deal. What if Haswell turns out to be amazing to the point that someone who just bought a new Ivy system would feel the need to upgrade (unlikely, but roll with it)? Those same upgrade pressures would also apply to the SB-E owner, since for most users Ivy and SB-E provide the same performance.

The SB-E/X79 platform just isn't any better than Ivy/Z77 for the vast majority of users, and IB-E/X79 isn't going to be either. If you are someone who needs X79 features or 6 core CPUs then that's obviously a different case, but for a gamer? No point.
post #13 of 14
Forceman is exactly right. Paying big bucks to buy into a 2011 socket board is pointless in the long haul. By the time there is a justifiable reason for a CPU upgrade 2011 will be long gone just like 1155, DDR3, SATA III, and current PCIE standards. We see people make this mistake of trying to "future proof" their build based on a socket and it always comes back to bite them years down the road when they realize that dropping a CPU on the board they have is pointless but they feel "tied" to the rig because they invested big bucks in a high end motherboard that has provided them no benefit over something half the price over its years of service. Ask someone who bought into a fancy 775 or 1156 socket board a few years ago if the CPU upgrade options look attractive enough to bother with as apposed to just building a new rig.

The X79 chipset and 2011 socket chips are only beneficial if you need the PCIE lanes and memory bandwidth for a server or render farm setup or something of that nature. It's pretty well known nowadays that GPU scaling beyond 2 cards is not very good, and the 1155 has enough PCIE bandwidth on Ivy not to cause any bottleneck on any dual card configuration.

The best thing you can do to "future proof" your rig, is to NOT TRY to future-proof your rig at all. Pick components that are in the sweet spot of performance/$ and take the savings and apply it towards the ability to do that again sooner rather than later down the road. Take the dollars you save not future proofing this rig and stick them in the bank.
     
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LGA 2011 isn't much more expensive. The Core i7 costs the same and a LGA 2011 board can be had for $200. If you live near a Microcenter LGA 2011 can actually be cheaper. I'm talking from personal experience - I had Z77/Core i7 and switched to X79/Core i7
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