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post #11 of 39
For those who think AMD will survive,
Question: What new revolutionary will they announce that will save them? The newest CPUs have been out for a while now and yet the stocks kept falling.

8000 series with 15% better performance? Is that enough?
Edited by Cloudfire777 - 11/15/12 at 2:23pm
post #12 of 39
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Originally Posted by aweir View Post

Stay tuned...

The end.
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AMD just needs to drop Bulldozer or at least improve it faster. Personally bulldozer is a server CPU at heart, not a desktop one. Lower single thread IPC just so you can add more cores to improve multithreaded workloads is plane stupid for a Desktop/Gaming machine, though pretty good for a server standpoint. Problem is Bulldozer was designed by a computer which makes it at least 20% inefficient out of the box and piledriver has done vary little to improve IPC and other problems, seems all they did was work on power usage. AMD would be better off using a improved phenom II architecture then sticking with Bulldozer ATM, Bulldozer turned out a lot like Phenom but to wait till 2014 to see improved bulldozer (AKA phenom II type improvement) is asking much. By the time 2014 rolls around AMD will release a CPU that finally competes with sandy but will be completely destroyed my haswell.

Though from a budget standpoint AMD is doing vary well. Those trinity APU's are better then i3's when it comes to a balanced setup. Unless you plan on gaming you should be getting a APU for basic tasks. AMD APU's should be found in nearly every low cost PC, yet they are not and it is only AMD to blame for that. AMD needs a better leader as sooner or later their CPU division will bankrupt the company. AMD needs to hurry up on HSA architecture, if it take them till 2016-2018 to release it then they will be in vary big trouble.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DzillaXx View Post

Though from a budget standpoint AMD is doing vary well. Those trinity APU's are better then i3's when it comes to a balanced setup. Unless you plan on gaming you should be getting a APU for basic tasks. AMD APU's should be found in nearly every low cost PC, yet they are not and it is only AMD to blame for that. AMD needs a better leader as sooner or later their CPU division will bankrupt the company. AMD needs to hurry up on HSA architecture, if it take them till 2016-2018 to release it then they will be in vary big trouble.

I see people saying this all the time in every AMD thread, its a valid point, but it does NOT matter when they clearly don`t sell as much as they should...

Their Fusion APUs are clearly not the solution and the problem lies elsewhere...
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I ctrl+F'ed this article. Not one mention of HSA. Which to me automatically renders the opinion invalid. It's excluding any mention of something that will be revolutionary for the computing industry, being taken forward through strong partnerships with other companies, significant investment and involvement. Clearly, the writer is misinformed.


HSA features are still coming to the next APU whether it's going to have Steamroller cores or not, if their latest roadmap is true. The Kaveri APU's shared memory structure (which will be vital to HSA) wouldn't be invalid if Piledriver cores were in place of Steamroller cores on the die.

post #17 of 39
Indeed.
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post #18 of 39
Op ed pieces are not news.
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Thread Starter 
My bad on putting it in news section. Didn't know where else to put it.

I wasn't trying to start a flame war so stop calling me an intel fanboy. I've bought both AMD and Intel in the past. I just thought this was an interesting article. OCN as toxic as ever it seems.
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I ctrl+F'ed this article. Not one mention of HSA. Which to me automatically renders the opinion invalid. It's excluding any mention of something that will be revolutionary for the computing industry, being taken forward through strong partnerships with other companies, significant investment and involvement. Clearly, the writer is misinformed.

HSA features are still coming to the next APU whether it's going to have Steamroller cores or not, if their latest roadmap is true. The Kaveri APU's shared memory structure (which will be vital to HSA) wouldn't be invalid if Piledriver cores were in place of Steamroller cores on the die.

they actually talked about arm. and it doesn't matter what you have if your company is poorly run / financials are bad. this wasn't a piece on the tech of AMD but the state of its business. because if you had 1 bit of sense you'd realise it takes more than tech and initiatives to run a business. But you'd know that if you took 15 minutes to read the article. thanks for showing me once again how ignorant the mods around here are.

Posted 1 article : flamed for being a fanboy + mod displays typical big headed arrogance and ignorance.

nothings changed at all around here.
Edited by voice - 11/15/12 at 5:11pm
post #20 of 39

HSA is going to bring significant business to AMD because no other company is willing to commit to HSA or any competing solution in the x86 field. It will give AMD a software coding and power efficiency advantage. This mention was completely missing in this article, which gives readers an inaccurate view of what the future of AMD may very well be.

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