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Best of everything for gaming is the 3570k. Spending more money is not best because you're gaining 0 fps for $100 extra.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-4.html
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Diminishing Returns Kick In:

CPUs priced over $230 offer rapidly diminishing returns when it comes to game performance. As such, we have a hard time recommending anything more expensive than the Core i5-3570K, especially since this multiplier-unlocked processor can be overclocked to great effect if more performance is desired. Even at stock clocks, it meets or beats the $1000 Core i7-990X Extreme Edition when it comes to gaming.

But now that LGA 2011 is here, there's certainly an argument to be made for it as the ultimate gaming platform. LGA 2011-based CPUs have more available cache and as many as two more execution cores than the flagship LGA 1155 models. Additionally, more bandwidth is delivered through a quad-channel memory controller. And with 40 lanes of third-gen PCIe connectivity available from Sandy Bridge-E-based processors, the platform natively supports two x16 and one x8 slot, or one x16 and three x8 slots, alleviating potential bottlenecks in three- and four-way CrossFire or SLI configurations.

Although they sound impressive, those advantages don't necessarily translate into significant performance gains in modern titles. Our tests demonstrate fairly little difference between a $225 LGA 1155 Core i5-2500K and a $1000 LGA 2011 Core i7-3960X, even when three-way graphics card configurations are involved. It turns out that memory bandwidth and PCIe throughput don't hold back the performance of existing Sandy Bridge-based machines.
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Would consider but no point in buying 2 670s, whn im going to upgrade to 2-3 680.

You should be looking into the 2011 socket if you want 3 680s, IMO the 7970s right now are a much better deal. 2011 will offer much better bandwidth for 3 high end cards.


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... Although they sound impressive, those advantages don't necessarily translate into significant performance gains in modern titles. Our tests demonstrate fairly little difference between a $225 LGA 1155 Core i5-2500K and a $1000 LGA 2011 Core i7-3960X, even when three-way graphics card configurations are involved. It turns out that memory bandwidth and PCIe throughput don't hold back the performance of existing Sandy Bridge-based machines.

Nope. Look up there.
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Don't do it.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/04/25/geforce_gtx_680_3way_sli_radeon_7970_trifire_review/ <--- someone correct me, this one indicates 680s x3 SLI is better... pretty sure that's out of date like 7 months later.
AND that article's really old, AMD's drivers are improving performance way faster than NVIDIA's at the moment, making the gap even larger.
7970s destroy 680s in multi-GPU setups, even single GPU setups, the 7970 bests the 680.
Additionally they have more VRAM, better for higher resolutions as well as ... well. For the most part, more FPS/$ via overclocking ability, better scaling, etc...
I say these things because I'm a slickdealer at heart, not because I'm a fanboy of any sort. (Running a 3570k & a 560 Ti 448.) I don't want to see people spending more for less it just hurts.

Thanks for the heads up, haven't been around the computer market for a while and have to get caught back up. One of the main reasons I looked at the 680s is because of the pre installed water block. I dont really want to install on my self. But maybe ill just drop the water cooled GPUs... considering that the 7970 runs about 10 C cooler
post #53 of 110
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Best of everything for gaming is the 3570k. Spending more money is not best because you're gaining 0 fps for $100 extra.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-4.html

No offense to you but i am sure he would see some benefits with the 3770K at some point.

I just like to overkill just to do it weather i will see benefits or not.
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You should be looking into the 2011 socket if you want 3 680s, IMO the 7970s right now are a much better deal. 2011 will offer much better bandwidth for 3 high end cards.

2011 socket is great but is also more $$ and at 19 i not made of $ haha.
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Thanks for the heads up, haven't been around the computer market for a while and have to get caught back up. One of the main reasons I looked at the 680s is because of the pre installed water block. I dont really want to install on my self. But maybe ill just drop the water cooled GPUs... considering that the 7970 runs about 10 C cooler

If your spending all this money then water cooling your gpu should def be on your mind.

No custom air cooling design will touch a water cooled gpu and it seems like you will be gaming for hours at a time so it will be useful.

The entire point of building a custom computer is to indulge head first so don't be afraid to install a simple water block.
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You should be looking into the 2011 socket if you want 3 680s, IMO the 7970s right now are a much better deal. 2011 will offer much better bandwidth for 3 high end cards.

2011 socket is great but is also more $$ and at 19 i not made of $ haha.

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Thanks for the heads up, haven't been around the computer market for a while and have to get caught back up. One of the main reasons I looked at the 680s is because of the pre installed water block. I dont really want to install on my self. But maybe ill just drop the water cooled GPUs... considering that the 7970 runs about 10 C cooler

If your spending all this money then water cooling your gpu should def be on your mind.

No custom air cooling design will touch a water cooled gpu and it seems like you will be gaming for hours at a time so it will be useful.

TBH you are made of money based on your build.

I consider past $900 becoming extravagent. At $900 I can find deals and get myself a 3570k with highend air cooling (silver arrow, d14) the best single gpu card on the market (7970) fit in an extremely nice mobo, 8gb ram, a 128gb+ ssd, nice case, even perhaps some modding on my graphics card (antec 620 + gpu) and still be under $1k.

Yes water is nice. I basically did that. However, gaming hours at a time... doesn't really require water cooling. He's asking you to spend more money than you need to. Do it if you want to.

If you're looking for performance. 2x 7970 will carry you a huge long way without needed modding of any sort. As long as you aren't a dingo and have 0 case fans then they should have enough air, just feed them cool air and exhaust the hot air and temps will take care of themselves.

And your framerates will be beastly. I'm out, seems like you got advised on all the parts necessary.

Do what you want, if you're looking to maximize FPS/$, I've already mentioned everything or pointed out the posts that people made which will help you in that arena.

Hobbywise? That's a whole different story, as you can see in my rig, it's not maxed out FPS/$ with the D14 & the Antec 620. I like silence.
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What brand of 7970 is good?
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Those GPU's will heat up with the quickness esp in cross fire or SLI.

Unless he uses headphones to block out the gpu fans blasting to keep them cool then there is no substitute for water.
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What brand of 7970 is good?

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/HD_7970_Toxic_6_GB/
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Nope. Look up there.

and where is the benchmark of the Tri-sli and the CPUs? I mean, I was looking for actual benchmark results to verify the results and I came up with none. It is hard to trust Tom's Hardware after that issue they had with Cooler Master earlier this year.

In reality, it will be game dependent. With the new Driver update, the 7970s should be taking advantage of PCIe 3.0 x16 speeds. Seeing as most Z77 boards will run at x8,x8,x8 or x16,x8,x8. It will be better to grab a 2011 board that runs at x16, x16, x8 or even x16 x16 x16.

Even a 3770k bottlenecks in a 64m BF3 game. With only SLI 680s, In almost every other game it will be fine though.
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