Originally Posted by psyclum
Originally Posted by OverClocker55
Hmm still debating over the TJ08 or this.. Hmm
either will be great. personally i prefer the TJ08-E simply i like the airflow design of the case. much cleaner airflow path. however, this case does offer more possibilities in terms of maximizing performance (additional cooling to GPU's via extra fans) if you are absolutely considering SLi/Xfire. BUT, TJ08-E is more liquid friendly if that is ever a concern of yours. the SG09 loses out on having standard 5.25 bays which are great for stuff like res/pump and fan controllers etc...
both are excellent choices. SG09 offer better out of the box cooling for CPU while TJ08-E offer better cooling to the GPU w/o additional fans. and SG09 is smaller then TJ08-E if size is a primary concern.
I agree, both are good cases, but I would not say the airflow path in the TJ08-E is cleaner than the SG09. If you keep the hard drive cage, the TJ08-E/PS07 actually have quite a blockage in terms of airflow to the CPU cooler and motherboard
. If you remove the HDD bay, then the # of HDDs you can have is greatly limited. And for the TJ08-E, if you are running SLI then the top GPU gets very little airflow from the front intake.
See this picture. With the HDD cage installed, there is a huge airflow blockage to the CPU cooler. This is not an issue with the SG09 even if you install the maximum # of hard drives/SSDs (6).
About your second point, what's not clean about the airflow path in the SG09? I think it is very clean. The PSU airflow is totally separated from the other components. PSU intake through the front, exhaust through the side. The CPU airflow is also separated from other components. 180mm intake on top feeding air to the CPU cooler/RAM/VRMs, exhaust through the rear 120mm. Then you have the 4 fans which can be installed for the GPUs. Intake through the side, exhaust through the rear GPU vents.Advantages of the SG09:
25% smaller than TJ08-E or PS07 (by volume)
Better CPU cooling (no HDD cage in the way to block airflow to CPU heatsink, better airflow to VRMs and memory since 180mm fan is right above)
Better GPU cooling (ability to have up to 4 intake or exhaust fans for the GPUs, 3 on 1 side and 1 more on the other side, very useful for SLI or crossfire)Advantages of the TJ08-E/PS07:
Can take standard (non-slim) 5.25" drives
Can take more 3.5" hard drives (4 vs. 2, though the SG09 can take 4 x 2.5" drives)
Can fit a 240mm radiator (in the PS07), or 180mm radiator (TJ08-E). However, if you use a radiator then you must remove the HDD cage which limits the # of HDDs that can be installed.
Originally Posted by psyclum
Originally Posted by 996gt2
I tried going without the fan, temperatures are definitely higher. And I'm running my CPU at 5 GHz so I prefer the extra cooling. My Maximus IV GENE has temperature-based fan control so the system is nearly silent at idle, as the AP-15s are running at just 700 RPM when the system is at idle.
As to why I didn't get a dual-tower cooler like an NH-D14 if I was going to use fans anyway, I used to have a D14, but I sold it and got the HR-02 because the HR-02 cools just as well (within 2 degrees or so) and does not block RAM slots. Every good dual-tower cooler blocks RAM slots and you cannot easily change RAM without removing the heatsink. The HR-02 does not have that problem and is still an excellent heatsink in its own right.
no i agree with your heatsink selection. i think the HR02 is underrated in terms of performance vs the twin tower coolers. if it was abit more budget friendly (like MACHO) and was available at the egg, i'd own one myself I guess if you are pushing 5ghz (which is pretty much the line where people start migrating to custom liquid) extra cooling from the fans doesn't hurt
I have a pretty golden 2700K which is stable at 5 GHz at a low voltage (see my sig). With my current setup (SG09+HR02) the max temp in Prime95 is about 75-78C. In normal use/gaming it doesn't really break 60C. That's why I haven't gone custom water yet
.Edited by 996gt2 - 11/19/12 at 12:03am