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Poll Results: Considering the Points below, like Performance, Software, Mousepad surface performances, Battery ETC... Which One is the best?

 
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    Razer Mamba Optical 4G Wireless
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    Cyborg R.A.T.9 Laser Wireless
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post #1 of 18
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I'm spending a lot of time trying to decide whether I should Pick the Razer Mamba or the R.A.T 9; As you guys know, R.A.T9 Have a "Twin eyes" Laser Sensor, which I understand is not as good as the Optical Sensor of the Razer mamba 4G, R.A.T9 Is way more expensive which makes me feel like I should buy it But I also Heard the R.A.T.9 Have many software Issues + the Twin eyes.

Laser or Optical?

This is another thing I'm Wondering, Which one is better? What's is the difference? I heard Optical have a better tracking, and Laser Can't take a lot of Acceleration, but that would make the R.A.T.9 Cheaper.... (Also, many threads I've checked don't clarify this.) On the other hand, Laser Mice Technology is newer than Optical and is being used by many Companies like Razer, Cyborg, Logitech etc... and I heard it Tracks movement more precisely.

Gaming Mousepads?

I'm thinking on get the Razer Scarab, I heard Laser or Optical Mouses have different performance in Different surfaces, it Concern me that I get the R.A.T9 to work crappyly bad on my Razer Scarab.

The Grip...

I Mostly use a Claw grip. before I had a Palm grip Mouses and I had no problem on getting used in a few weeks but I do have a Small hand, I understand the R.A.T.9 Is extremely customizable but this plus is Lost if It doesn't Perform well, Overall I prefer Performance and precision over Style, and How comfortable it is, anyway, I get used to everything in a Week.

Battery Life, the eternal problem...

I see Both have different ways to charge the battery and different duration, as the Mamba have a cord you can Plug in and charge the battery while playing, the R.A.T9 Have extra batteries you can change in a few seconds and charge the other, Have anyone had an Issue with any of these mouse on the battery side? What's you're opinion?

The Software, That Forgotten thing that does Matter.

I've had a Mouse from Fierce Rude Gameware, the Wired 5600 DPI Version, Overall it was a Good Mouse, But I got tired with some Software Issues, it sometimes freeze like Randomly, once 2 or 3 times a day, Others never happen in Weeks, DPI Profiles Switcher stop working many times and it died 9 Months after bought it, also some settings on the software like acceleration rating were activated on the Software UI, but I could feel they were off, I had to Unplug the Mouse and restart the Driver software to make it work again, this happen Often with my last Mouse, Freaking Annoying.

PERFORMANCE PERFORMANCE, PRECISION, DURATION

This is My true goal, I'm tired of changing Mouse every couple of months and get used to them, which takes Weeks, Tired of missing the target on WoW or miss-clicking things because I'm still getting used to the new Mouse, or for lack of Precision, I'm willing to pay even 500$ For a freaking Mouse that Last at Least 3 Years and Don't cause me any problem of Any Kind on Software.

Buttons

5 Buttons is the perfect Number, Less and I'm Screwed, I can't play as I'd wish, More and they would be a waste even tho it's OK to have extra Buttons, it doesn't bother me to have 10 Buttons, but I wont be using more than 5 Buttons.

Conclusion:

Which one should I get? Which one is better with the Mousepad Scarab Combo? Which one is Just the Choose One? If you had Both, Please, I invite you to say you're experience with them, and if you had any of these, Please tell us what you think.

Thanks in advanced, and Forgive my Grammar Mistakes, English is not my first Language.
Edited by Dargonplay - 11/16/12 at 10:15pm
post #2 of 18
i have the rat7 (wired version of rat9) with a razer scarab pad and absolutely love it. movement is crisp and precise. the ability to totally customize the shape and weight of a rat mouse is a huge bonus and makes for a mouse that is really unique. i have had mine for almost two years and its never failed me
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post #3 of 18
Well, I use a R.A.T. 9 right now and even though I heard the same thing as you about the laser, Iv'e never experienced any tracking or accelerating problem with it.

For palm grip it is extremely good, the customization option for palm grip are pretty good, better than fingertip grip.

Battery life really is no problem, it can last about 4 hours on non-stop playing and really takes just a second to change, it also warn you a couples of minutes before by flashing, so if you're playing a FPS or any other games, it's not going to die in the middle of the fight, unless you wait until the last minute tongue.gif

Software is pretty good, nothing to flashy, but does the job, you can use up to 3 profile at a time. Never really had problem with it but I don't swift my profile, I alway use the same one .

As for the performance, I'm an architect and it's serving me extremely well, I need to be fast and precise when working and it's doing both.

And last but not least, I recommend a hard surface mouse pad, I use a razer Ironclad and absolutely love it, but I guess any hard surface will do.
I had a soft pad before but since I use some pretty high DPI setting when I clicked, the cursor would move a little, but it was due to the pad being to soft and the mouse squeezing it.

I've been using it for 1 year and a half now still no problem with it. Also if you are to get it, make sure you get the 6400 DPI one, they had a previous 5600 DPi mouse which had many flaws. The Axis lock was fixed with this new 6400 version and so was the problem that occured when lifting the mouse.
Edited by Snovv - 11/16/12 at 9:02pm
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Originally Posted by Snovv View Post

Well, I use a R.A.T. 9 right now and even though I heard the same thing as you about the laser, Iv'e never experienced any tracking or accelerating problem with it.
For palm grip it is extremely good, the customization option for palm grip are pretty good, better than fingertip grip.
Battery life really is no problem, it can last about 4 hours on non-stop playing and really takes just a second to change, it also warn you a couples of minutes before by flashing, so if you're playing a FPS or any other games, it's not going to die in the middle of the fight, unless you wait until the last minute tongue.gif
Software is pretty good, nothing to flashy, but does the job, you can use up to 3 profile at a time. Never really had problem with it but I don't swift my profile, I alway use the same one .
As for the performance, I'm an architect and it's serving me extremely well, I need to be fast and precise when working and it's doing both.
And last but not least, I recommend a hard surface mouse pad, I use a razer Ironclad and absolutely love it, but I guess any hard surface will do.
I had a soft pad before but since I use some pretty high DPI setting when I clicked, the cursor would move a little, but it was due to the pad being to soft and the mouse squeezing it.
I've been using it for 1 year and a half now still no problem with it. Also if you are to get it, make sure you get the 6400 DPI one, they had a previous 5600 DPi mouse which had many flaws. The Axis lock was fixed with this new 6400 version and so was the problem that occured when lifting the mouse.

I'm planning to buy a Hard Mousepad, the Razer Scarab and I've look for this R.A.T.9 With 6400 DPI with no success, I can't find it either on Tigerdirect or Newegg, and Amazon, Which are the only reliable stores I know.

It kinda looks like or it's still Way too new, it doesn't exist or it was a Limited edition or something.

Thanks for your post, and Btw, I heard the Ironclad Wear off very fast and easy, How is your mousepad taking it?
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by Dargonplay View Post

I'm planning to buy a Hard Mousepad, the Razer Scarab and I've look for this R.A.T.9 With 6400 DPI with no success, I can't find it either on Tigerdirect or Newegg, and Amazon, Which are the only reliable stores I know.
It kinda looks like or it's still Way too new, it doesn't exist or it was a Limited edition or something.
Thanks for your post, and Btw, I heard the Ironclad Wear off very fast and easy, How is your mousepad taking it?

Can't really tell about the ironclad, I bought it a month ago so it's still pretty new, about the 6400 R.A.T., I'm surprise you are unable to find it, it had been out for over a year now, over here, only a few store still sell the 5600 model, it is discontinued, if you are really interested in it, might be worth it to email them, asking if the mouse is 5600 or 6400, maybe they havn't updated their website.
post #6 of 18
Simple: get a Deathadder. I've been through countless mice, and haven't been truly happy with any of them. That is, until I bought the Deathadder. No need to spend more money on mice. The only reason the DA isn't going to work for you is if you need tons of buttons. If that's true, maybe the R.A.T. 9 is a better fit for you. Oh, and optical sensors are always better than laser sensors in terms of precision. People tend to get a little screwed up and think lasers are better because they're more advanced or some crazy idea like that. Nothing tracks as precisely, and ensures that you have no positive or negative acceleration as a good optical sensor..
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Simple: get a Deathadder. I've been through countless mice, and haven't been truly happy with any of them. That is, until I bought the Deathadder. No need to spend more money on mice. The only reason the DA isn't going to work for you is if you need tons of buttons. If that's true, maybe the R.A.T. 9 is a better fit for you. Oh, and optical sensors are always better than laser sensors in terms of precision. People tend to get a little screwed up and think lasers are better because they're more advanced or some crazy idea like that. Nothing tracks as precisely, and ensures that you have no positive or negative acceleration as a good optical sensor..

I'm perfectly fine with only 5 Buttons, More than 5 it's a waste of Buttons because I wont use them, Less than 5 and I'm screwed.

I heard the DA Is just the same as mamba but with less Buttons and wired, if that's true, Why not going just for Mamba?
post #8 of 18
I have razor mamba wireless its pretty good, could be better but still a very good mouse. My first mouse was the Logitech mx1000 wireless laser mouse it was really good!! i like the razer mamba just as much. Iv been wanting to try that rat 7/9 mouse but dont want to spend another 100 bucks to get one, when mamba already costs 100 bucks.

I think both mamba and rat mouse are pretty good, although i have read abunch of mixed reviews on newegg about the rat 7 9 mice, seems like quality control issue? duno?
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If you have small hands I don't recommend the rat 9, although its customizable it is quite wide but you cannot reduce the width. If your thinking of buying it try it first before you buy it.
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I have razor mamba wireless its pretty good, could be better but still a very good mouse. My first mouse was the Logitech mx1000 wireless laser mouse it was really good!! i like the razer mamba just as much. Iv been wanting to try that rat 7/9 mouse but dont want to spend another 100 bucks to get one, when mamba already costs 100 bucks.
I think both mamba and rat mouse are pretty good, although i have read abunch of mixed reviews on newegg about the rat 7 9 mice, seems like quality control issue? duno?

Would you say the Razer Mamba is good for the Claw Grip? And the Cursor moves when you lift it up? Also the Battery life, how does is handling it?

Your mouse ever got freeze, disconnected or something like that? Lag? Problems? Both sensor give the precision it promise?

Sorry for this many questions, But I really wanna choose a Winner and It's hard, I may ended up buying Both or the Razer Mamba if I can't get the 6400 DPI Version of the R.A.T 9
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