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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

I agree. My problem with Win7 isn't that it is a bad Windows. It's just that I am tired of the same basic format since 1995. I want something entirely new but still trustworthy and supported (i.e. NOT Linux).

i think you're thinking of osx
post #182 of 307
Definitely NOT thinking of OSX. Besides, Apple's OS is really nothing more than a dumbed-down analog of Windows with the same type of desktop interface. Metro is cool because it is something completely different looking. And yeah, I actually like the merging of the mobile-style OS's and desktop. Just a more modern and elegant way of doing things that eschews the 90's style approach Windows has been stuck in for two decades.

But yeah, it makes better business sense to allow the metro features to be turned on or off to satisfy those who can't adapt to change...
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It's not that most of us (people who won't run win 8) do not like change. I loved the changed from XP to 7, minor as they may be.

I understand why touchscreens work so well with phones and tablets, but I just think building the OS around touch is doing something for the sake of doing it. I have a TF300 with the keyboard dock that I use for class. I always use the trackpad and the keyboard, as much as possible because it is simply faster and easier. I get it, touchscreen is cool just like 3D TV is supposed to be cool.


Do you really want it? Does it really work?


Keyboard and mouse works because it allows you to perform a wide range of tasks with relatively little movement. The idea is to minimize movement, thus speeding up the rate work can be done. It's the same principle that goes with printing letters, and cursive letters. The less you move, especially from the end of one letter to the beginning of the next, the faster you will work...logical right?

Now imagine working with a touchscreen PC running a heavily touch optimized OS(win8). My arms instead of resting comfortably on my desk or laptop is now in front of the monitor unsupported as I move my hands around the big screen to tap on certain things.

Seems fun, but really? I know, I know...I can just use a mouse and keyboard....voila problem gone! But then why did you build it around touch....why would I upgrade???

Another major issue is, yes mobile phones and tablets use touch almost exclusively and sales of them have exploded. iOS and Android and extremely user friendly, well some will say android is harder but lets just leave these people out of the conversation. The point is someone can pick it up, play around for a while and have a decent idea of how to use it. My parents have a hard enough time operating windows 7, with only 2 ways to input information. Click on something with a mouse, or type with the keyboard. I don't even want to begin to think of the kinds of questions they will ask me if I put a windows 8 powered machine in front of them. Believe it or not, the majority of computer users are not all that technologically savvy.
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I blame the Xbox.

Call me crazy but I've been saying for years that PC Gamers and better yet, PC Gamers + hardware enthusiasts were one of MS best customers. We are a huge advertiser for Microsoft OS's and also PC hardware. What do I mean by this. A lot of us were/are asked by friends and family for PC purchase advice. Then Microsoft screwed us. They released the Xbox and turned its back on PC gamers.

When the XBOX came out a lot of PC gamers fled to that platform and gave up on PC gaming. There went a large chunk of MS OS promoters who no longer needed its OS or the latest and greatest PC hardware.

Short of it is all hardware vendors and Microsoft should be focusing on PC gaming. Microsoft needs to release AAA+ exclusive PC games again and maybe the vendors can help PC gaming through promoting it like the consoles companies do. How often do you see a PC gaming commercial?

Thankfully PC gaming is strong enough to stand on its own two feet. My PC gaming backlog is MASSIVE! thumb.gif
Edited by kornedbeefy - 11/19/12 at 6:03pm
post #185 of 307
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Newegg spoke about Windows 8's sales, confirming the rumour:

Here it is:
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The folks at ReadWriteWeb have found a tie breaker: Merle McIntosh, Newegg's Product Management chief for North America. McIntosh spoke to the site on record, and his take seems to lend weight to the rumor mongers.
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Nevertheless, McIntosh says Newegg and its partners planned for an "explosion" at the Windows 8 launch, despite internal doubts about just show successful Windows 8 would prove internally. And the doubters turned out to be right. "[Windows 8] did not explode, as I think you know, coming out of the gate," says McIntosh.
http://techreport.com/news/23929/newegg-chimes-in-on-windows-8-retail-success

I'll add it to the OP.

P.S. Yes, Newegg's representative is called McIntosh. Ironic, I know. biggrin.gif
 
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I agree. My problem with Win7 isn't that it is a bad Windows. It's just that I am tired of the same basic format since 1995. I want something entirely new but still trustworthy and supported (i.e. NOT Linux).

If it ain't broke, why fix it? The wheel is perfect! Can it be better? Probably, but why bother? Win7 just works better with mouse and keyboard. That is just my one, lonely opinion. Your answer is the only one that counts when choosing one of them.
post #187 of 307
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If it ain't broke, why fix it? The wheel is perfect! Can it be better? Probably, but why bother? Win7 just works better with mouse and keyboard. That is just my one, lonely opinion. Your answer is the only one that counts when choosing one of them.

Just like the tired argument Windows proponents use "Change is good," that argument is also worn out and is simply not true. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and the same is true with regards to UI and usability of it (omitting glaringly obvious hindrances to usability).
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post #188 of 307
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But yeah, it makes better business sense to allow the metro features to be turned on or off to satisfy those who can't adapt to change...

Because in your world it is not possible to really just not like metro, you must be not able to adapt to change. What a completely bullcrap interpretation bud. Seriously, you like it so anyone who doesn't can 't adapt to change, lol. laughingsmiley.gif
post #189 of 307
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Newegg spoke about Windows 8's sales, confirming the rumour:
Here it is:
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The folks at ReadWriteWeb have found a tie breaker: Merle McIntosh, Newegg's Product Management chief for North America. McIntosh spoke to the site on record, and his take seems to lend weight to the rumor mongers.
Quote:
Nevertheless, McIntosh says Newegg and its partners planned for an "explosion" at the Windows 8 launch, despite internal doubts about just show successful Windows 8 would prove internally. And the doubters turned out to be right. "[Windows 8] did not explode, as I think you know, coming out of the gate," says McIntosh.

http://techreport.com/news/23929/newegg-chimes-in-on-windows-8-retail-success
I'll add it to the OP.
P.S. Yes, Newegg's representative is called McIntosh. Ironic, I know. biggrin.gif

"Confirming the rumour"?

This thread and the perpetuation of this rumour has now gone "full retard" imo.

What is the rumor?

Sales are below projections.

Source? A blogger.

What were the projections? Up 200% from last time? 300%? 500%? 10% 0.5%?

Nobody knows. So how can we come to any worthy conclusion?

All we know is that that there is a rumour and the only evidence for that rumour is other rumours.


Now we have people attempting to deliver Windows 8 as a failure in sales via this newegg reps quote.....by attempting to say that Windows 8 did not "explode" out of the gate.......

How does he know? Did everyone who bought Windows 8 go through newegg? Maybe I'm a bit special, but I'd have thought many people would've been taking up the super cheap offers that came straight from Microsofts own web store. You know, like MS's £25 vs retailers £50, or the £15 copy I got after buying a laptop for my grandad. (Yes, that's £. People who don't live in Newegg country also bought Windows 8!)

Furthermore, since when does anybody plan for an "explosion" of a new Windows OS when it becomes available? How does neweggs failure to understand the workings of the Windows OS market for over a decade constitute as proof towards MS's findings regarding sales?

Only thing that hasn't visibly exploded is Windows 8 optimised hardware, but that's due to late product launches.

Meh and blah.
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The Newegg representative believes sales will pick up next year in time for the B2S shopping season. Most people that have bought new PCs, bought them in August and the users most willing to buy a stand-alone copy of Windows(full retail, not upgrade) don't find a compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7 as they did with Windows Vista. I think most of the casual users will upgrade, as over four million already have, and those looking for a brand new PC will nab Windows 8 next year.

In my personal opinion, there is nothing wrong with Windows 8 and the UI change had little to no effect on people's apprehension. The typical mantra is that Windows ME and Vista were "the bad ones" which acted as a catalyst that drove sales of XP and Windows 7, but it seems like those same users are attributing Windows 8's slow start to the Start menu instead of realizing that Windows 7 has been the most solid Windows release ever.

I think Microsoft is right about the OEMs and their race to the bottom. I strongly urge them to start making their own equipment because when they want to, they can make some of the best hardware(Xbox 360 S, Zune, Surface, Peripherals).
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