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Windows 8 sales are ‘slow going,’ says Newegg

One thing I just thought of... Newegg cannot see the sales Microsoft had on the digital version, and as I recall they didn't run any promotions to bring the update disc price down to $40 like Amazon did. I bet most people who want to try Windows 8 would go straight to Microsoft, since it is cheaper to get the digital version. Newegg currently sells the upgrade for $70.
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One thing I just thought of... Newegg cannot see the sales Microsoft had on the digital version, and as I recall they didn't run any promotions to bring the update disc price down to $40 like Amazon did. I bet most people who want to try Windows 8 would go straight to Microsoft, since it is cheaper to get the digital version. Newegg currently sells the upgrade for $70.

Now, now.

Lets not use common sense/logic or any other frivolous things.

Just bask in the chaos and calamity of the headlines like everyone else.

Sales are below expectations which immediately means its a flop. All this can be considered true because a blogger said so.
Edited by GrizzleBoy - 11/20/12 at 9:50am
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One thing I just thought of... Newegg cannot see the sales Microsoft had on the digital version, and as I recall they didn't run any promotions to bring the update disc price down to $40 like Amazon did. I bet most people who want to try Windows 8 would go straight to Microsoft, since it is cheaper to get the digital version. Newegg currently sells the upgrade for $70.

True, but then again, as the article goes on to say ...
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Finally, just to flesh out this story a little more, Windows super-fan Paul Thurrott has an insider source at Microsoft who says that Windows 8 sales are “disappointing” and “well below projections.”
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I don't think metro is faster to use, just different. That's the part I like. Feels like something entirely new as opposed to the old way of doing things which hasn't really changed anything since 1995. I guess according to some of you MS should just stop at Win7 and keep making that forever.... rolleyes.gif

Sounds like you like to be different for the sake of being different.

OS X has been relatively stable for the past decade, nothing too radical for every new version.

M$ however, can't seem to find it's own identity, always trying something new without any consideration for the average consumer, which is 99% of computer users in the world.

People like you keep forgetting, not everyone can adapt to change so easily especially after spending decades doing the same thing routinely everyday. You like many people here who "think" W8 is good are thinking selfishly. When M$ decides to revamp a entire OS it only affects you, a individual. Ever thought about businesses? When M$ makes a change like this, for a business, it affects an entire company, not just one person.

Quite obviously you don't own or run a business because no owner in the right mind would spend time and money to retrain workers on how to use Win8 just because M$ decided it was a good idea to "change it up a bit". That is why I have a stack of 9 brand new laptops from a law firm who is requesting to have Win8 removed and upgraded to Windows 7.

If people like you enjoy "changing it up" every once in a while maybe you should consider the fashion industry, they change every season, you'll love it.
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Sounds like you like to be different for the sake of being different.
OS X has been relatively stable for the past decade, nothing too radical for every new version.
M$ however, can't seem to find it's own identity, always trying something new without any consideration for the average consumer, which is 99% of computer users in the world.
People like you keep forgetting, not everyone can adapt to change so easily especially after spending decades doing the same thing routinely everyday. You like many people here who "think" W8 is good are thinking selfishly. When M$ decides to revamp a entire OS it only affects you, a individual. Ever thought about businesses? When M$ makes a change like this, for a business, it affects an entire company, not just one person.
Quite obviously you don't own or run a business because no owner in the right mind would spend time and money to retrain workers on how to use Win8 just because M$ decided it was a good idea to "change it up a bit". That is why I have a stack of 9 brand new laptops from a law firm who is requesting to have Win8 removed and upgraded to Windows 7.
If people like you enjoy "changing it up" every once in a while maybe you should consider the fashion industry, they change every season, you'll love it.

not really. osx gradually evolved to focus on a larger trackpad and trackpad gestures (or alternately magic mouse, but i don't like magic mouse. it feels awkward). this change happened rather gradually, however. but it is a noticeable change nonetheless. comparing mountain lion (the most recent release) to snow leopard (several years old), snow leopard has gestures and trackpad emphasis. but in addition to the features of snow leopard, mountain lion has full screen mode and about twice as many gestures.

why did it take windows so long to adopt the same elements osx gradually slowly adopted? well in part because windows has never had the emphasis on keyboard commands. yeah they're there, but they are not as obvious and transparent (and therefore not encouraged). gestures have a lot of the same functions as keyboard commands in osx, but their advantage is that they can be done with one hand.

the whole touchscreen emphasis doesn't really make sense to me. what they should be emphasizing is trackpad gestures. utilizing a bulky laptop in the same way you use small light tablet is dumb
Edited by perfectblade - 11/20/12 at 10:21am
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not really. osx gradually evolved to focus on a larger trackpad and trackpad gestures (or alternately magic mouse, but i don't like magic mouse. it feels awkward). this change happened rather gradually, however. but it is a noticeable change nonetheless. comparing mountain lion (the most recent release) to snow leopard (several years old), snow leopard has gestures and trackpad emphasis. but in addition to the features of snow leopard, mountain lion has full screen mode and about twice as many gestures.
why did it take windows so long to adopt the same elements osx gradually slowly adopted? well in part because windows has never had the emphasis on keyboard commands. yeah they're there, but they are not as obvious and transparent (and therefore not encouraged). gestures have a lot of the same functions as keyboard commands in osx, but their advantage is that they can be done with one hand.
the whole touchscreen emphasis doesn't really make sense to me. what they should be emphasizing is trackpad gestures. utilizing a bulky laptop in the same way you use small light tablet is dumb

Windows 8 as I recall introduces standardized trackpad gestures, where before manufacturers were pretty much free to implement whatever they wanted.

However, it's the ultra-mobile market (tablets, ultrabooks, convertibles, etc) that are growing the most rapidly. People are updating a year or every two years, since hardware is growing more powerful with each generation that actually makes a performance difference (especially battery life), while today's desktops are powerful enough to be used until it dies without noticing any significant performance differences.
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Windows 8 as I recall introduces standardized trackpad gestures, where before manufacturers were pretty much free to implement whatever they wanted.

this is my primary reason for wanting windows 8. that and proper fullscreen support. apple has been more conservative with pushing fullscreen (perhaps because they have a dock which already decreases the amount of screen space wasted). but i see no reason for them not to just push full screen. there is no you could objectively argue that clicking through programs in the dock is faster than pressing command+tab and flipping through programs.
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However, it's the ultra-mobile market (tablets, ultrabooks, convertibles, etc) that are growing the most rapidly. People are updating a year or every two years, since hardware is growing more powerful with each generation that actually makes a performance difference (especially battery life), while today's desktops are powerful enough to be used until it dies without noticing any significant performance differences.

well i think smartphones and ultrabooks are going rapidly. but to me convertibles have always seemed like a niche market, but i don't have the knowledge to back that up, in favor of either perspective
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not really. osx gradually evolved to focus on a larger trackpad and trackpad gestures (or alternately magic mouse, but i don't like magic mouse. it feels awkward). this change happened rather gradually, however. but it is a noticeable change nonetheless. comparing mountain lion (the most recent release) to snow leopard (several years old), snow leopard has gestures and trackpad emphasis. but in addition to the features of snow leopard, mountain lion has full screen mode and about twice as many gestures.

why did it take windows so long to adopt the same elements osx gradually slowly adopted? well in part because windows has never had the emphasis on keyboard commands. yeah they're there, but they are not as obvious and transparent (and therefore not encouraged). gestures have a lot of the same functions as keyboard commands in osx, but their advantage is that they can be done with one hand.

the whole touchscreen emphasis doesn't really make sense to me. what they should be emphasizing is trackpad gestures. utilizing a bulky laptop in the same way you use small light tablet is dumb

Well, but you can't expect people who use Windows on a desktop to have both a trackpad and a mouse. Gamers, for example, would have to keep switching between one and the other. Trackpad for the desktop (and even then, for some things a mouse is more precise and thus required) and mouse for gaming. And if the mouse already works perfectly, why introduce more paraphernalia to the desktop ? I think we are in one of those moments in history where the "future" seems to have arrived, and it's all very cool and it looks awesome on TV, but it's not 100% practical.
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Now, now.
Lets not use common sense/logic or any other frivolous things.
Just bask in the chaos and calamity of the headlines like everyone else.
Sales are below expectations which immediately means its a flop. All this can be considered true because a blogger said so.

Surely there must be a reason for firing Sinofsky.
 
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