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This is 100% true.
this is sad tho, i mean it eally isnt that big of a deal. you can still do everything and more. people can be so single minded

Not really, you can't do some things (eg. Jump straight into a recently opened file) with Metro and half of the things you can do are noticeably slower. at least for me, but then I use the start menu like a madman. I tried Win8 on my laptop and in a VM and pretty much for the entire time I've been using it, it's just been annoying compared to Win7 or even Linux with MATE like I have on my laptop now.

I'd also suggest that if there was a really, really good reason for having the tablet UI on the desktop, people would love it and would go straight to it..But why change when at best, its equal? Metro would be amazing on a tablet, but MS cocked it up.
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It really blows my mind that this is here, I mean throughout the whole development of W8 (years) no one ever questioned if having your arms raised because you need to be able to touch the large screen at different points tires out your arms after a while.

I can't shake the feeling that Ballmer is the one forcing Metro so hard, and we know that mans grip on reality is as shaky as AMDs grip on the CPU performance market.
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I'm not single minded nor scared of change. Metro just doesn't work for me. Simple as that.
most of the time you can avoid metro how long did you try windows 8 and for what purposes? did you change any of the settings to suit you?

You're forgetting that the way people use GUIs is extremely subjective, what you do isn't what I do isn't what Rubers does, etc. I use the start menu extensively so I'm not able to avoid Metro most of the time.

I've used Win8 for about 2 months or so now, in various forms. It was on my laptop for 3 weeks and in a VM for the rest of the time, I never really kept it for longer because Metro was just too annoying, and for my uses? Well, Linux has the same benefits but better (Faster CPU and GPU performance as proven by the F@H guys more recent results and Valves L4D OpenGL vs DX/Linux vs Windows testing, vastly better security, etc) as well as additional benefits (Vastly better GUI, btrfs has improved features over NTFS and ReFS too) with very few drawbacks (Nearly everything I do is Linux compatible), hence why I'd rather switch to Linux than Windows 8, but that's not everyone obviously.
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Server 2012 has loads of really cool things like Switch Independent NIC Teaming, but none of this gets passed over to Win8. It may as well be Win7 SP2 with a new UI.

Reminds me of the days when people would run the server editions of Windows for better performance and more features. (eg. The people running NT when 95 and 98 were popular, 2k vs ME, Server 2003 vs XP, etc)
    
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win 8 is made for touchscreens its really not efficient to use for non touchscreen....
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As soon as my contract is up... Its Windows Phone + Windows Tablet (Pro not RT) and Windows Desktop. The most productive thing for me will be the ability to use one ecosystem to access everything. Finally... FINALLY... Microsoft made a huge step in the right direction here when it comes to business productivity. The plebeians don't see it but word around the watercooler full of 5000 dollar an ounce water is "this is huge" Think about it, the touchscreen functionality of it alone makes it a huge improvement. But more than that the ability to get your employees or agents to work in the field and use the same resources they have from the desk. That is massive. It's definitely a game changer. I cannot wait for adoption of this kind of ecosystem. Even if its in Windows 9 because we have to fire the low or mid level IT guys that don't understand how this helps productivity this will be a revolution.


A game changer ? Helps productivity ? Those people you are hearing around the watercooler are probably just excited because it's a new toy. Face it, if you want to use Office Home and Student 2013 that comes with the Surface RT (and the same with Office 2013 on a Surface Pro, when it becomes available) you have to use the Touch Cover or the Touch Keyboard, it is not optimized for touch, it even runs on the desktop.

People have been able to use such type of tablet computers for years, and touch has never been a game changer when it comes to productivity, unless you're managing stocks in a warehouse. For real productivity you need some sort of keyboard.

Windows XP Tablet Edition:



Windows 7:

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A game changer ? Helps productivity ? Those people you are hearing around the watercooler are probably just excited because it's a new toy. Face it, if you want to use Office Home and Student 2013 that comes with the Surface RT (and the same with Office 2013 on a Surface Pro, when it becomes available) you have to use the Touch Cover or the Touch Keyboard, it is not optimized for touch, it even runs on the desktop.
People have been able to use such type of tablet computers for years, and touch has never been a game changer when it comes to productivity, unless you're managing stocks in a warehouse. For real productivity you need some sort of keyboard.
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never said touch is the gamechanger im saying the touch side of things is a smaller part whe it somes to desktop, people are missing so many good changes to the actual os itself, and reading in another thread today bout how good windows 8 phone is, it'll be similar to people with iphones/ipads/macs.... your whole household connected on one platform, if it can catch on with the common consumer is the problem microsoft will have.... i know everyone cant agree but this is my veiw and im genuinely excitd and cant wait to see what happens next smile.gif
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Yeah, I can't wait to get a Windows 8 phone....
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I love win 8. I have installed it on my tablet (Acer iconia w500), laptop (Asus g73sw) and htpc.
I just bought a 3770k and a Asus p8z77-v pro to upgrade my sig system and will be installing win 8 on that this week. Power users should rejoice at win 8. It makes me tons more productive and efficient. There was a learning curve but it was well worth it.

I have completed my upgrade and wow. what a machine.

windows 8 is even better.
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Yeah, Windows 8 is pretty nice as long as you are open-minded and give it a good attempt to learn the new changes. There is no problems with the new start menu, I am mostly in Desktop (mode) anyway. Everything runs faster, which is a plus!
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Yeah, Windows 8 is pretty nice as long as you are open-minded and give it a good attempt to learn the new changes. There is no problems with the new start menu, I am mostly in Desktop (mode) anyway. Everything runs faster, which is a plus!

Very true. I am really enjoying it.
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Yeah, Windows 8 is pretty nice as long as you are open-minded and give it a good attempt to learn the new changes. There is no problems with the new start menu, I am mostly in Desktop (mode) anyway. Everything runs faster, which is a plus!

Liking or disliking Windows 8 has nothing to do with being open-minded. For most, it is PERSONAL PREFERENCE of what UI I most feel comfortable with. I really dislike the Metro UI and want it to be optional. I also do not have the time or patience to learn a new UI that I don't need. I feel that a lot of people are in the same boat as me on this one. I don't like or care to learn about a new UI, but that does not mean I am not open minded to W8. It is simply that my personal preference of UI combined with my lack of time to learn an unnecessary UI and current satisfaction with W7 accumulatively makes me pass on it. Now if Metro was natively optional and the classic UI is still an option, I would gladly buy W8. Until that happens, I have a feeling that W8 will flop worse than Vista did.
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Liking or disliking Windows 8 has nothing to do with being open-minded. For most, it is PERSONAL PREFERENCE of what UI I most feel comfortable with. I really dislike the Metro UI and want it to be optional. I also do not have the time or patience to learn a new UI that I don't need. I feel that a lot of people are in the same boat as me on this one. I don't like or care to learn about a new UI, but that does not mean I am not open minded to W8. It is simply that my personal preference of UI combined with my lack of time to learn an unnecessary UI and current satisfaction with W7 accumulatively makes me pass on it. Now if Metro was natively optional and the classic UI is still an option, I would gladly buy W8. Until that happens, I have a feeling that W8 will flop worse than Vista did.

Yep, until they make it optional, it's a flop in my eyes. I don't care about any of the improvements. Metro is enough of a blocker for me.

I will being it back to the turd analogy... There's a turd in the cake and I don't feel like eating around it.
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