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I would agree that Windows 8 leaves any kind of business in the dark. But I don't think they intended to target that group of customers with Windows 8. The way I see it, Windows 8 was to be a mobile platform operating system. But Microsoft knew if they marketed it as a completely new version of Windows, they would potentially globalize on sales. Not only selling it to laptop and tablet manufactures, but also to people like you, me, and desktop OEM manufactures. It opened a big door for profit when they said it can run on quite a few platforms.

And then when the end users found out it doesn't work like they wanted it to and then didn't buy it for their desktops/laptops/non touch screen devices, then what?

Oh right: they lost money.
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And then when the end users found out it doesn't work like they wanted it to and then didn't buy it for their desktops/laptops/non touch screen devices, then what?
Oh right: they lost money.
How can you lose money from something you never factored in? Microsoft should already in the profit margin with Windows 8. I honestly don't see the new start menu going away, that's why I think they pushed it out on all platforms. This is the new face of Microsoft, that I think people will grow a custom to over the next 5-10 years. Microsoft selling apps that would only work only on Windows 8 isn't probable. Microsoft knows if they want to make a change all consumers will follow regardless if they like it or not.
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How can you lose money from something you never factored in? Microsoft should already in the profit margin with Windows 8. I honestly don't see the new start menu going away, that's why I think they pushed it out on all platforms. This is the new face of Microsoft, that I think people will grow a custom to over the next 5-10 years. Microsoft selling apps that would only work only on Windows 8 isn't probable. Microsoft knows if they want to make a change all consumers will follow regardless if they like it or not.

That might be so - but I still think its quite a gamble on MS part. They sort of seem deperate enough to pull off such relatively higher risk stunt to get into mobile. Might sucseed even - as far as I understand Win 8 is pretty good on a tablet. Just not as good on a desktop/laptop for most people other than few "true believers".

Once the Win 8 matures and people get more used to it on their tablets and phones more people would probably shift - mostly as a result of buying a new PC with one. That day is just not today as its still fresh thing and for your average desktop user it makes sense to wait and let the dust settle some more to see if there really is anything why one would need to switch. Dont fix what aint broke and all that.
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this is true, why else do Macbooks win all the consumer polls and and get the best reviews? It's hard not win by default when non-Apple PC makers are...*gulp* DELL and HP (name 1 product that you'd want to own by them? Exactly you can't)

the Dell XPS laptops are decent.

Also the reason Apple wins consumer polls is because they look cool. and people want to be accepted and look cool.
 
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this is true, why else do Macbooks win all the consumer polls and and get the best reviews? It's hard not win by default when non-Apple PC makers are...*gulp* DELL and HP (name 1 product that you'd want to own by them? Exactly you can't)

the Dell XPS laptops are decent.

Also the reason Apple wins consumer polls is because they look cool. and people want to be accepted and look cool.

They have the best trackpad out of every laptop I know of, amazing screens and decent build quality. Truth be told, if I have to put $2k down on a laptop I'd go for a Macbook Pro.
    
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the Dell XPS laptops are decent.
Also the reason Apple wins consumer polls is because they look cool. and people want to be accepted and look cool.

look and feel cool. Now that they've phased out plastic entirely from their mobile line they all feel like quality pieces.

i've had my 2011 mbp 15" for a year now and have had no problems with the durability or performance. looks great too, relatively slim for a 15" and has pretty good battery life.

plus their customer service rates fairly high.

The only windows based laptop I'd consider are thinkpads, but even then they're not that great. Lenovo's site is pretty terrible for ordering and they tried and failed to copy the apple style trackpad on their X230. I've actually set one up for one of my users, and was not a fan of the trackpad by far. The Carbon X1 looks like they made another attempt. I havent tried that one yet.

So the looks are the only reason they win polls? Nope.

And do not tell me that PC enthusiasts do not care about aesthetics (wire tucking, making tidy water cooling loops, lighting, etc.)
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this is true, why else do Macbooks win all the consumer polls and and get the best reviews? It's hard not win by default when non-Apple PC makers are...*gulp* DELL and HP (name 1 product that you'd want to own by them? Exactly you can't)

the Dell XPS laptops are decent.

Also the reason Apple wins consumer polls is because they look cool. and people want to be accepted and look cool.

They have the best trackpad out of every laptop I know of, amazing screens and decent build quality. Truth be told, if I have to put $2k down on a laptop I'd go for a Macbook Pro.

I'd get a Precision. At least then I'd get an i7, 16GB, and a FirePro or Quadro out of my two grand.

I mean sheesh, I'm looking at the MacBookPro line up... $2000 gets you a 2.5Ghz i5 (dual core), 8GB of 1600, a 256GB SSD (which is not replaceable), and you're stuck on HD4000. On a 13-inch laptop.
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this is true, why else do Macbooks win all the consumer polls and and get the best reviews? It's hard not win by default when non-Apple PC makers are...*gulp* DELL and HP (name 1 product that you'd want to own by them? Exactly you can't)

Every printer I have owned for the last 10 years has been HP. Do I win something?
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Just bought my girlfriend a new laptop for christmas, first thing I am doing is uninstalling W8 and replacing it with W7
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Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter View Post

I think one of the main issues is just that Windows 7 is so awesome.
this is the main reason i believe windows 8 sales are disappointing. most people are very content with what windows 7 has to offer.
another thing is piracy. millions of windows 8 downloads through torrent sites are a major concern for microsoft.
blaming the vendors and economy is wrong as recent call of duty black ops 2 sales records are an example tongue.gif
    
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