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please educate me with more details. i dont understand lol. what do you gain from having a bigger sensor? if you cant answer that question... then when i answer it, you can keep quiet and stop pretending like you know what you are talking about. thumb.gif
i dont pretend like i know more about computers than most people here. because i dont and i admit that i know barely anything about computers. i only work as a videographer and freelance photographer and only use my computer to edit photos and video.

a bigger sensor needs less time to capture an image, this prevents blurs/noise, this is specially beneficial when capturing a moving subject or in low lights.

example, two cameras in low light situation, one has small sensor, one has big.
the camera with a small sensor might need a tripod to capture an image in a dark environment, you can't operate it by hand because the shutter needs to be open for more than a second for example, a slight hand or body movement will blur the image, you have to be absolutely still while the shutter is open.

the camera with a big sensor needs less time because it has a bigger "eye", it can gather the "light" more quickly, it can capture an image in low light situation instantly you don't need a tripod.
to sum it up, the bigger the sensor the quicker it can take a picture, leaving no time for blur inducing movements.
Edited by ghostrider85 - 11/18/12 at 7:54pm
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a bigger sensor needs less time to capture an image, this prevents blurs/noise, this is specially beneficial when capturing a moving subject or in low lights.
example, two cameras in low light situation, one has small sensor, one has big.
the camera with a small sensor might need a tripod to capture an image in a dark environment, you can't operate it by hand because the shutter needs to be open for more than a second for example, a slight hand or body movement will blur the image, you have to be absolutely still while the sensor is open.
the camera with a big sensor needs less time because it has a bigger "eye", it can gather the "light" more quickly, it can capture an image in low light situation instantly you don't need a tripod.
to sum it up, the bigger the sensor the quicker it can take a picture, leaving no time for blur inducing movements.

You're confusing the sensor with the speed of a lens.

For example: A small sensor with a lens that has a speed of F/1.8 will be much better than a larger sensor with a lens that has a speed of f/4. The sensor only gives better quality/lower noise in an image, as well as resolution/frame size.
Edited by Buzzin92 - 11/18/12 at 7:52pm
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I still don't get why you guys are arguing about this. Thing is, a majority of people have little training when it comes to proper photography, and as such they take rather less-than-stellar photos no matter what gear they have. That being said, better cameras will give technically better shots; experienced photographers can produce better results out of phone cameras, but there's only so much you could do with their meager sensors and software compared to legitimate SLR cameras.

Still though, in the right hands, any decent camera can produce a great result in the end.
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I still don't get why you guys are arguing about this. Thing is, a majority of people have little training when it comes to proper photography, and as such they take rather less-than-stellar photos no matter what gear they have. That being said, better cameras will give technically better shots; experienced photographers can produce better results out of phone cameras, but there's only so much you could do with their meager sensors and software compared to legitimate SLR cameras.
Still though, in the right hands, any decent camera can produce a great result in the end.

Agreed
 
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You're confusing the sensor with the speed of a lens.

there is no such thing as "lens speed"

if you mean the SHUTTER SPEED, then no i'm not confused about that.
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there is no such thing as "lens speed"
if you mean the SHUTTER SPEED, then no i'm not confused about that.

Uhh yes there is...

Lens speed, fStop, Aperture size.

Have a read before speaking something you know nothing about. http://www.photographybay.com/2010/01/02/photography-basics-lens-speed-and-aperture/
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a bigger sensor needs less time to capture an image, this prevents blurs/noise, this is specially beneficial when capturing a moving subject or in low lights.
example, two cameras in low light situation, one has small sensor, one has big.
the camera with a small sensor might need a tripod to capture an image in a dark environment, you can't operate it by hand because the shutter needs to be open for more than a second for example, a slight hand or body movement will blur the image, you have to be absolutely still while the sensor is open.
the camera with a big sensor needs less time because it has a bigger "eye", it can gather the "light" more quickly, it can capture an image in low light situation instantly you don't need a tripod.
to sum it up, the bigger the sensor the quicker it can take a picture, leaving no time for blur inducing movements.

LOL holy cow. you are so confused and way wrong. as buzzin92 said you dont seem to understand the difference between sensor size and aperture.

a bigger sensor will not capture an image any faster at the same settings as a smaller sensor. but increasing the sensitivity aka ASA ISO DIN (for the older school german photogs) can allow you to increase the shutter speed. shutter speed doesnt mean the camera will take the photo faster, it only means how long the sensor is exposed to light. the actual processor inside the camera allows a camera to take a photo and show it on a LCD preview faster. so more expensive cameras with better imaging processors will take a photo faster and with less lag between pressing the shutter release and the shutter actually releasing. better processor means more images per second and having them pop up to preview faster

im not trying to be mean. but seriously after all that telling me how wrong i am and you dont even understand the basics. please please please read these and get a book and learn before you argue about photography thumb.gif

http://www.overclock.net/t/898709/for-new-dslr-users-a-beginner-s-guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/483885/a-guide-on-dslr-systems
http://www.overclock.net/t/911216/for-new-dslr-users-a-slightly-more-advanced-guide
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there is no such thing as "lens speed"
if you mean the SHUTTER SPEED, then no i'm not confused about that.

there is such thing as lens speed. its a misconception and doesnt mean the actual speed of the lens but is a common term used to describe a lens that offers a wider aperture which allows for faster shutter speeds. so a "fast lens" doesnt mean the lens is literally fast, just means you can get faster shutter speeds in low light situations
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Uhh yes there is...
Lens speed, fStop, Aperture size.
Have a read before speaking something you know nothing about. http://www.photographybay.com/2010/01/02/photography-basics-lens-speed-and-aperture/


with a dslr camera, you can adjust the shutter speed, if the sensor is small and the light is low, you need to adjust the shutter speed to slow, it needs more time to gather the light, slower shutter speed is more prone to blurring, that's why you need a tripod,

if the sensor is big enough you can set the shutter speed to fast, no need for a tripod
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with a dslr camera, you can adjust the shutter speed, if the sensor is small and the light is low, you need to adjust the shutter speed to slow, it needs more time to gather the light, slower shutter speed is more prone to blurring, that's why you need a tripod,
if the sensor is big enough you can set the shutter speed to fast, no need for a tripod

I'm not going to bother repeating what's already been said, so read this:
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LOL holy cow. you are so confused and way wrong. as buzzin92 said you dont seem to understand the difference between sensor size and aperture.
a bigger sensor will not capture an image any faster at the same settings as a smaller sensor. but increasing the sensitivity aka ASA ISO DIN (for the older school german photogs) can allow you to increase the shutter speed. shutter speed doesnt mean the camera will take the photo faster, it only means how long the sensor is exposed to light. the actual processor inside the camera allows a camera to take a photo and show it on a LCD preview faster. so more expensive cameras with better imaging processors will take a photo faster and with less lag between pressing the shutter release and the shutter actually releasing. better processor means more images per second and having them pop up to preview faster
im not trying to be mean. but seriously after all that telling me how wrong i am and you dont even understand the basics. please please please read these and get a book and learn before you argue about photography thumb.gif
http://www.overclock.net/t/898709/for-new-dslr-users-a-beginner-s-guide
http://www.overclock.net/t/483885/a-guide-on-dslr-systems
http://www.overclock.net/t/911216/for-new-dslr-users-a-slightly-more-advanced-guide
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