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So I haven't really looked much into laptops until recently. I do currently own a laptop but it's notthing worth noting. I tried to play DOTA 2 on it and it was unplayable so this Black Friday, I'm in the (Canadian) market for an upgrade.

I don't really know what to look for. I've heard a bunch about ultrabooks and I kinda want one. Their form factor is great and terrible at the same time. Basically, I know there are sacrifices to be made if I go the ultrabook route in terms of features/performance. How about I just list some things I'm looking for in both and see if the fine people of OCN can point me in the right direction if not suggest something.

For Ultrabooks:
  • No more than $1000 CAD
  • Greater than 1366x768 (absolute must)
  • Dedicated video card (630M or better preferred. Nothing less than 620M)
  • If it's hard drive/mSATA combo, replaceable mSATA is preferred (HDD only models not welcomed. SSD's are fine.)
  • Do dual 2.5" drive ultrabooks even exist?
  • Full gigabit ethernet port would be a nice bonus


Something like the Dell XPS 14 would be nice. Though I doubt the mSATA is replaceable in this thing. Also, a lower price would be nice.


For Notebooks:
  • No more than $1100 CAD
  • Greater than 1366x768 (absolute must)
  • Dedicated video card (660M Preferred)
  • Dual drive slots would be nice but replacable mSATA slots can work
  • Don't care much for blu-ray and bluetooth

I've taken a look at the Lenovo Y580 and I was wondering if all the models come with the mSATA slot.. or is it just the one with the massive price tag?


General Questions/Comments:
  • Is the difference between i7 and i5 significant for ultrabooks? what about notebooks?
  • Windows 7/8 doesn't matter
  • Being able to get the laptop from a store (not online) is highly preferred. I live in Toronto (NCIX, Best Buy, FutureShop, Canada Computers, etc).
  • If the budget seems a little low, I'm hoping Black Friday will work its magic
  • Do mSATA SSD's work like normal SSD's in that you can install things like OS and games on them? or are they only for caching?

For now I'm just looking for some help/suggestions. Am I totally off track? Are there other criteria I should consider?
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Browse this thread. This site is pretty serious about black friday.


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Originally Posted by Whyzguy View Post

So I haven't really looked much into laptops until recently. I do currently own a laptop but it's notthing worth noting. I tried to play DOTA 2 on it and it was unplayable so this Black Friday, I'm in the (Canadian) market for an upgrade.
I don't really know what to look for. I've heard a bunch about ultrabooks and I kinda want one. Their form factor is great and terrible at the same time. Basically, I know there are sacrifices to be made if I go the ultrabook route in terms of features/performance. How about I just list some things I'm looking for in both and see if the fine people of OCN can point me in the right direction if not suggest something.
For Ultrabooks:
  • No more than $1000 CAD
  • Greater than 1366x768 (absolute must)
  • Dedicated video card (630M or better preferred. Nothing less than 620M)
  • If it's hard drive/mSATA combo, replaceable mSATA is preferred (HDD only models not welcomed. SSD's are fine.)
  • Do dual 2.5" drive ultrabooks even exist?
  • Full gigabit ethernet port would be a nice bonus
Something like the Dell XPS 14 would be nice. Though I doubt the mSATA is replaceable in this thing. Also, a lower price would be nice.
Don't expect to have very many, if any, brand new ultrabooks below $1000, especially one with at least a GT 630m and higher than standard resolution. They really want you to pay for the form factor and SSD. Dual-drive ultrabooks don't exist (ultrabooks are made to be lightweight, why would they have space for 2 hard drives if they don't even have a dvd drive?). Only 17.3+" laptops have 2 spaces for hard drives.
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For Notebooks:
  • No more than $1100 CAD
  • Greater than 1366x768 (absolute must)
  • Dedicated video card (660M Preferred)
  • Dual drive slots would be nice but replacable mSATA slots can work
  • Don't care much for blu-ray and bluetooth
I've taken a look at the Lenovo Y580 and I was wondering if all the models come with the mSATA slot.. or is it just the one with the massive price tag?
The only notebook that I know of with a GTX 660m is Lenovo's Ideapad Y580. Customized laptops may have the 660m as an option.
Quote:
General Questions/Comments:
  • Is the difference between i7 and i5 significant for ultrabooks? what about notebooks?
  • Windows 7/8 doesn't matter
  • Being able to get the laptop from a store (not online) is highly preferred. I live in Toronto (NCIX, Best Buy, FutureShop, Canada Computers, etc).
  • If the budget seems a little low, I'm hoping Black Friday will work its magic
  • Do mSATA SSD's work like normal SSD's in that you can install things like OS and games on them? or are they only for caching?
For now I'm just looking for some help/suggestions. Am I totally off track? Are there other criteria I should consider?
- It depends a lot on what you use your computer for.
- Why do you prefer not to do it online?
- msata SSDs are just like regular SSDs, except they're really small. Whether you can install an OS and store data on them or caching depends on the capacity.

The most important criteria you haven't listed is the purpose of your laptop. Is it just for games? Do you use any special software like CAD for engineering? Or Adobe software like photoshop or rendering programs?

Also have you made up your mind on whether you want a lightweight, lower-powered ultrabook or a higher performance notebook?
Edited by Bitech - 11/18/12 at 1:57am
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Thread Starter 
Hey thanks for the reply.

In terms of usage, I'll be doing some moderate gaming. I'm starting to play a lot of DOTA 2 and I know it's not it's not super demanding but if I can play it prettier, why not. No CAD drawings or encoding stuff. Just mild use.

I've been looking around and the Sony S-series 13" version came up on notebookcheck.net. It seems to be a potential middle ground for my ultrabook/laptop needs. Some of the configurations (the "performance" and "enhanced" models) allows for 2x SSD. Do the lower end models have the extra 2.5" slot? If yes, are there any blatant flaws I need to be aware of from the S-Series?
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