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If you have a Crucial M4 ssd and If you are using UEFI Bios, DO NOT upgrade to f/w 010G. I have 2 of these drives die after a few days from upgrade. After reboot, ssd is no longer detected. It's a known issue, stay with f/w 000F.
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They did...but that doesn't mean people know about it. I didn't know about it until this last week when my PC started crashing and rebooting. I built my system in Sept. 2011 and once it was up and working, I didn't bother with updates. Til it caused problems. And I can tell you, most people are just going to review and complain instead of trying to troubleshoot. Even though the fix is an easy 2 minute process.

You can take the time to sign into Newegg and write a bad review. But yet, you can't take the time to Google a solution to your problem?

Problem solved. The laziness of others doesn't make it a bad drive, nor does it make the reviews correct just means people are lazy and want something to complain about.

Sorry, but your last post kind of defeats the purpose of this whole thread. That's like my given situation with my X79 FTW, the board is crap, I know that, others do too. But do you see me running to Newegg to write a bad review? Nope, because I've spent the last 3 days trying to find a solution to my issue and guess what? Not EVERYONE is having issues, most are, but a lot aren't.

/rant over
 
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Btw, my drives are more than a year old. Never failed until I updated the firmware. Now back to 000F (downgrade is very easy), my bios detects my ssd again like nothing happened smile.gif
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You can take the time to sign into Newegg and write a bad review. But yet, you can't take the time to Google a solution to your problem?
Problem solved. The laziness of others doesn't make it a bad drive, nor does it make the reviews correct just means people are lazy and want something to complain about.
Sorry, but your last post kind of defeats the purpose of this whole thread. That's like my given situation with my X79 FTW, the board is crap, I know that, others do too. But do you see me running to Newegg to write a bad review? Nope, because I've spent the last 3 days trying to find a solution to my issue and guess what? Not EVERYONE is having issues, most are, but a lot aren't.
/rant over

Excuse me...no where did I say that I wrote a review...because I haven't. I googled. I said "most people."

I came here and eventually to the crucial forums. I updated the ssd firmware before I even posted here...because the new firmware 010G caused problems too. In fact, I didn't even know about the 5184 problem until *after* I had updated firmware. In fact, go take a look at the thread below that I started on Nov. 11th. I've troubleshooted. My drive is back up and running.
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post #96 of 177
Its funny because between me and my friends, we have bought 8 OCZ vertex drives. 7 have failed, and only 1 works, (in my rig, lolol)

Not hating on OCZ, the RMA's went perfectly fine and dealt with fast.
post #97 of 177
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Problem solved. The laziness of others doesn't make it a bad drive, nor does it make the reviews correct just means people are lazy and want something to complain about.

//rant on

and furthermore...though I agree the OP's reason for starting this thread is suspicious (OCZ fanboy? employee? stockholder?)...and his reasoning, based only on newegg reviews, is specious at best, the fact of the matter is that the people leaving those reviews are not the enthusiasts that frequent these forums. They are not the ones who have any patience for troubleshooting or understanding that a "failure" may not be a FAILURE. And they are not necessarily lazy.

Playing devil's advocate a bit here...

Let's remember, that it wasn't that long ago that the only thing you ever flashed was the BIOS. I don't think I ever flashed firmware on a mechanical drive. I only once or twice flashed firmware on a CD/DVDRW drive.

Also, the symptoms caused by the 0009 firmware (5184 hours) such as freezing, rebooting, etc...could be caused by many, many things including RAM, software, power, board. The SSD firmware was certainly *not* my first thought. Now, I flashed it as one of my troubleshooting steps...buy many, many people out there would not necessarily think to do the same. It can take hours and days to troubleshoot those types of problems and quite a few people aren't going to do that. To many people, if you power up and the drive is not seen in BIOS or your boot order...you call the drive dead and replace it.

Then, when you visit the Crucial site, they only give you the firmware information on the currently released version of the firmware. The info on firmware 010G does *not* tell you that back on version 0309 they fixed an issue causing hourly reboots and freezes, etc. (the 5184 hours problem). So how are people to know that 010G will help them at all? On top of that, the 010G info says it may not work with UEFI systems. You have a bunch of UEFI systems now...how many people are going to try since Crucial says up front it may not flash.

It was only after I had flashed to 010G and still had problems with my drive being recognized that I started searching through Crucial's forums. It is only by sheer chance that I found out about the 5184 hours issue. Certainly in my thread started on these forums, no one mentioned it. On top of that I was still having problems on 010G with the drive being recognized.

What if some of those reviews on Newegg are from people who did due diligence and flashed the firmware? Maybe they are having the problems I did with 010G. Why should they go any further and try to find the previous firmware (which is not linked on Crucial's web pages) and downflash. Why wouldn't they just call it a dead drive? If Crucial's SSD support pages don't mention it or link it, why would someone trying to troubleshoot their problems go to the forums to look for links to previous firmware. And forums on company websites are not always all that helpful.

And...how did Crucial release a firmware that caused a SMART error after x number of hours anyway? And why don't they leave multiple links/versions of the firmware up?

Is it any wonder then that people leave negative reviews?

So to sum up...
I think the OP was just trying to stir up trouble and/or trying to promote OCZ for personal gain.
I think many of the negative reviews on Newegg are not truly failures and the OP's reasoning is misled at best.
If Crucial can't do a better job of getting information out there...well, then...who is really to blame?
Are some of the people posting negative reviews lazy? Yes. All of them? No.
Having gone through the troubleshooting I have done in the last week...I can certainly understand why some of those negative reviews exist.

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If you have a Crucial M4 ssd and If you are using UEFI Bios, DO NOT upgrade to f/w 010G. I have 2 of these drives die after a few days from upgrade. After reboot, ssd is no longer detected. It's a known issue, stay with f/w 000F.

What!? I'm on 010g . My current sabertooth and previous m5a97 evo uefi bios/s picked it up just fine...

Am I just lucky, or is it a boot order Issue?
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Have enjoyed a 0% failure rate from the dozen or so OCZ SSDs we have deployed, so I certainly have to recommend those for now.

Wow! A whole 12 pack of ssd with a 0% failure rate and you're ready to recommend the brand to everyone?
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They were probably just passing along info Sandforce was feeding them. They did not create the controller so how are they supposed to know what the cause of the problem is? Sandforce probably told them it has to be the users hardware configurations.. remember the SF-2xxxx was the first sata 3 SSD and there is always a risk to be on the cutting edge but to blame OCZ for that is pretty dumb. I could understand if it was OCZs controller and they denied problems but it wasn't.

OCZ made a choice releasing the controller before it was truly ready. They did the same thing with the Vertex 4 and got lucky.

And yes, OCZ was just as responsible as Sandforce for the 2281 fiasco. OCZ had their own testing being done in house trying to find the issue as well and it was them who came up with all the BS about user error, motherboard incompatability etc.

It's obvious you weren't around then. Corsair had the same issue with their Force 3 drives because it used the exact same controller. Yet on the Corsair support forum, no 20 step windows setup etc because that was all OCZ.

Imagine this. The same company that lied about earnings recently lied about ssd problems in the past. And you are here promoting them. Good job son.
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What!? I'm on 010g . My current sabertooth and previous m5a97 evo uefi bios/s picked it up just fine...
Am I just lucky, or is it a boot order Issue?

I had the problrm of SSD not being picked up in the BIOS with the new firmware... it seems random *shrug* had to downgrade to 000F

Either way, its pretty bad that crucial are leaving that firmware up, if someone flashed it and didnt think to check the forums about the fix, they would have thought their SSD just died.
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