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You should go to a MicroCenter store if you are in the area. They have great bundle deals for cpus and mobos. You can pick up a i7 3770k and a z77 motherboard bundled for about $350. Hope this helps!

Thanks, no microcenter on florida. frown.gif

I am pretty sure newegg will be the place to go. I hope they make some good discounts on Black Friday.
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Thank you!
So, do you reccomend to go to the i5-3570K or the i7 3770K?
PSU:
What about the one xnuw reccomends?
Also i have read very good things about this one:
SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095
Same price, more W... What do you think?
Thanks. I was more thinking on something with a 13" screen and use it connected to a monitor, but the price for something like that is going to be around 1500-1800 and i am not sure it is worth the money.

 

The 620W M12II is the same PSU internally as the 620W Antec High Current Gamer M Series, except the SeaSonic is more modular (less of the cables are hardwired).  The 550W OCZ ZT Series is a fully modular PSU, and that means none of the cables are hardwired.  I personally don't know how it would be beneficial to not even have the EPS12V and ATX12V cables hardwired, but some people are still attracted to it.

 

There's certainly no need to be concerned about the wattage capacity if you're only ever going to have one video card.  Even a quality-made 550W is unnecessary overkill, but of course the final decision is definitely all yours.  :)

 

I do want to mention the wattage capacity difference between the two 620W PSUs and the 550W OCZ ZT.  These days, computer systems get most of their power from the +12V rail, so the +12V capacity is the most important.  I compared the differences between the 550W OCZ ZT and the two 620W PSUs here, and it turns out that there is only a 36W difference.  I mean, the two 620W units have a +12V capacity of 576W while the 550W OCZ ZT's +12V capacity is 540W.  The 550W OCZ ZT is on the Recommended Power Supplies list (the other ones are too), it's fully modular, so I guess that it would be my choice.

 

Finally, I think the 550W OCZ ZT wins in terms of connectivity due to the combination of being fully modular and having two 6+2 PCI-E cables.  The 620W High Current Gamer has two as well, but it is not as modular of a PSU.  The 620W SeaSonic M12II has two, but one is a 6-pin and one is a 6+2 pin.  So, if you ever bought a video card that needs two 8-pin cables but you had the 620W SeaSonic M12II, then you'd have to use one of those ugly molex to PCI-E adapters.  Not so with the other two PSUs!  However again, the OCZ ZT is fully modular.  That means there would be no unused cables that you have to stuff somewhere.


Edited by TwoCables - 11/19/12 at 6:18am
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post #13 of 33
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Thanks, no microcenter on florida. frown.gif
I am pretty sure newegg will be the place to go. I hope they make some good discounts on Black Friday.

I need somebody else to back this claim up, but newegg deals might he on the following Monday after black Friday, known as Cyber Monday. i personally don't remember what kind of deals they had last year. Maybe somebody else can enlighten us
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Judging from their site, it looks like they are doing Black Friday and more.

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post #15 of 33
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The 620W M12II is the same PSU internally as the 620W Antec High Current Gamer M Series, except the SeaSonic is more modular (less of the cables are hardwired).  The 550W OCZ ZT Series is a fully modular PSU, and that means none of the cables are hardwired.  I personally don't know how it would be beneficial to not even have the EPS12V and ATX12V cables hardwired, but some people are still attracted to it.

There's certainly no need to be concerned about the wattage capacity if you're only ever going to have one video card.  Even a quality-made 550W is unnecessary overkill, but of course the final decision is definitely all yours.  smile.gif

I do want to mention the wattage capacity difference between the two 620W PSUs and the 550W OCZ ZT.  These days, computer systems get most of their power from the +12V rail, so the +12V capacity is the most important.  I compared the differences between the 550W OCZ ZT and the two 620W PSUs here, and it turns out that there is only a 36W difference.  I mean, the two 620W units have a +12V capacity of 576W while the 550W OCZ ZT's +12V capacity is 540W.  The 550W OCZ ZT is on the Recommended Power Supplies list (the other ones are too), it's fully modular, so I guess that it would be my choice.

Finally, I think the 550W OCZ ZT wins in terms of connectivity due to the combination of being fully modular and having two 6+2 PCI-E cables.  The 620W High Current Gamer has two as well, but it is not as modular of a PSU.  The 620W SeaSonic M12II has two, but one is a 6-pin and one is a 6+2 pin.  So, if you ever bought a video card that needs two 8-pin cables but you had the 620W SeaSonic M12II, then you'd have to use one of those ugly molex to PCI-E adapters.  Not so with the other two PSUs!  However again, the OCZ ZT is fully modular.  That means there would be no unused cables that you have to stuff somewhere.
That is a great reply. Thanks.
Well, i am not going to have more than one GPU. I tried it some years ago, and when i decided to go SLI i just bought a new GPU and replace the old one.
The full modular and the connectivity are a good point to choose the 550W.
Also the 36W are not going to make me choose the 620 against the 550W.
What about the sound? Is the OCZ ZT good on that?
I have read on Newegg that the PSU is a little bigger than normal. How can i be sure it will fit on the case (i am not sure which case i will use already).
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I need somebody else to back this claim up, but newegg deals might he on the following Monday after black Friday, known as Cyber Monday. i personally don't remember what kind of deals they had last year. Maybe somebody else can enlighten us

I suppose we will know on friday. smile.gif
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That is a great reply. Thanks.
Well, i am not going to have more than one GPU. I tried it some years ago, and when i decided to go SLI i just bought a new GPU and replace the old one.
The full modular and the connectivity are a good point to choose the 550W.
Also the 36W are not going to make me choose the 620 against the 550W.
What about the sound? Is the OCZ ZT good on that?
I have read on Newegg that the PSU is a little bigger than normal. How can i be sure it will fit on the case (i am not sure which case i will use already).
I suppose we will know on friday. smile.gif

 

I don't know one way or the other about whether or not the ZT Series is good at staying quiet.  Although, with as little power as your system would be pulling from it, it should stay silent.

 

The size difference is concerning its length.  That is, it's just a tiny bit longer when measuring from the back of the case towards the front.  The standard size in this dimension is 6.3" (about 160 mm), but this one is 6.9" (about 175 mm).  So, it should fit as long as the case allows for bigger PSUs (like say an even longer one, such as most 1000W+ PSUs).

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post #17 of 33
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I don't know one way or the other about whether or not the ZT Series is good at staying quiet.  Although, with as little power as your system would be pulling from it, it should stay silent.

The size difference is concerning its length.  That is, it's just a tiny bit longer when measuring from the back of the case towards the front.  The standard size in this dimension is 6.3" (about 160 mm), but this one is 6.9" (about 175 mm).  So, it should fit as long as the case allows for bigger PSUs (like say an even longer one, such as most 1000W+ PSUs).
Thanks. I think i will buy this one.

This is what i have now:

MOB:
Considering Asrock Z77 EX4 or Asus P8Z77-V
CPU:
i5-3570K
Cooler:
Not sure if i will need something or use the one that come with the cpu.

PSU:
OCZ ZT Series 550W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Bronze High Performance, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341050

Now lets go to find a SSD and the RAM
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Thanks. I think i will buy this one.
This is what i have now:
MOB:
Considering Asrock Z77 EX4 or Asus P8Z77-V
CPU:
i5-3570K
Cooler:
Not sure if i will need something or use the one that come with the cpu.
PSU:
OCZ ZT Series 550W Fully-Modular 80PLUS Bronze High Performance, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817341050
Now lets go to find a SSD and the RAM

Extreme 4(ASUS customer support sucks)

Hyper 212 even if you are not overclocking(I like my temps down)or noctua DH14 or H60.

Samsung Ram

Samsung 830 or 840 pro SSD(128 or 256).You can also get M4 or 520.
Edited by Makyl - 11/19/12 at 7:06am
post #19 of 33

I don't know how I missed this, but there's also the new 550W SeaSonic G Series for $74.99 shipped:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

 

It's modular in more of a normal way (like the SeaSonic M12II as an example), but it still has two 6+2-pin PCI-E connectors which I think is nice.  Plus, this PSU is more efficient than the 550W OZT ZT series.  This means that it will pull less power from the power outlet for the same power draw being pulled from the PSU.

 

This one also has a silent fan mode where the fan doesn't even spin if it's not needed.  ;)

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post #20 of 33
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Extreme 4(ASUS customer support sucks)
Hyper 212 even if you are not overclocking(I like my temps down)or noctua DH14 or H60.
Samsung Ram
Samsung 830 or 840 pro SSD(128 or 256).You can also get M4 or 520.

After reading a little, Asrock Extreme4 is the Mob i need.

I will look for a cooler that works now and i could use it on the future OC, so maybe noctua is a good choice. I already had one on my old computer.

Looks like the RAM is not really expensive. 

For the SSD i am not sure where to start. It looks like there is a lot of M4 128Gb on newegg.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

I don't know how I missed this, but there's also the new 550W SeaSonic G Series for $74.99 shipped:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

It's modular in more of a normal way (like the SeaSonic M12II as an example), but it still has two 6+2-pin PCI-E connectors which I think is nice.  Plus, this PSU is more efficient than the 550W OZT ZT series.  This means that it will pull less power from the power outlet for the same power draw being pulled from the PSU.

This one also has a silent fan mode where the fan doesn't even spin if it's not needed.  wink.gif
$59.99 after $15.00 rebate

That a really good price. Thank you! i was looking on newegg and i miss that too.
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