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LET THE TANKING COMMENCE!!!!!
A guy comes into the shop with a new Retina MBP 15... that he spilled juice onto the track pad. Great job genius.

BTW, as a note to everyone, I have absolutely no sympathy for the following:
  • Data loss. They make things called backups.
  • Spill damage unless it was a freak accident.
  • Dropped machines unless it was a complete freak accident (as most cases, it can be avoided)


I go up to the counter and start talking to him. He starts to take the machine apart on the counter and says he needs to remove the battery to get the track pad out. I stop him right there. The track pad cannot be removed and replaced in the Retina machines since the battery is epoxied into the machine. I tell him this and get him a quote for a top case - about 600. He says he doesn't want to do that and will get the top case somewhere else. I tell him, that if he gets it to me, I will replace the top case for him (gotta have business ya know smile.gif ).

Anyways, I give him the part number for the top case and he goes him and leaves the machine with me. Alright, not bad.

A week passes
Customer comes back in and brings in a top case. He says he managed to get for 200... RED FLAG! A top case for this should not even be that cheap. I keep my mouth shut and just proceed.
Alright, lets yank this guy apart and replace this top case!

To see what all had to be done, please see this.

Cool, now, just reverse it all with the new top case! DONE!

Press le power button... and... fans spin at 100%...



Okay, I disassemble it... and in the process I break the plastic lock on the fan connector and break an antenna connect from the wifi card...




Alright... okay, Xeb, calm down and think. Alright, lets just go through this machine and figure out the cause of the fans first.

A little while later
After much testing, I conclude that the top case is indeed the cause, so I give the customer a call. I explain to him what is going on and that he top case he ordered is bad. I tell him that it is possible for me to send it in under warranty (smile.gif) and that I would backup his data before hand. He says to go ahead and do it. Okay, well so far, things have sucked.

Lets try getting the data. I booting from my super stick and grab the data from the machine... well.. The drive doesn't want to mount. Okay. Disk warrior? Nope, keeps coming up with and ever increasing amount of overlapped files...






Okay, back to reality. From all of the shutting down and testing, I have caused the SSD to do what all SSDs will eventually do when they loose power a lot - corrupt... great. Okay. Well, good news is that I got the windows side saved before hand. So, I call the guy back and he is upset (I blamed it on the top case smile.gif ), but understanding. He is ifne with whatever I could get.

Alright, now back to my plan of panic and avoidance of demise.

First, I use the customers top case he bought (since it was an apple top case biggrin.gif ), then I manage to glue the connector back onto the airport card and make it look like nothing happened.
The fan connector I don't have to work about. Alright, mail off to Apple for some anti-tankage.

A week passes
Apple, I love you. Top case, airport card, and logic board were all replaced. FIXED!!!

Why not tell the guy you think it's weird he got it that cheap? Where I work we spend lots of time communicating with the customer and explain things to them in a language they can understand.

is it possible to remove the hdd/ssd? I usually take that stuff out and see if what ever it is boots up. i've seen a few drives prevent things form booting or cause the fans to spin 100%.
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

LET THE TANKING COMMENCE!!!!!
A guy comes into the shop with a new Retina MBP 15... that he spilled juice onto the track pad. Great job genius.

BTW, as a note to everyone, I have absolutely no sympathy for the following:
  • Data loss. They make things called backups.
  • Spill damage unless it was a freak accident.
  • Dropped machines unless it was a complete freak accident (as most cases, it can be avoided)


I go up to the counter and start talking to him. He starts to take the machine apart on the counter and says he needs to remove the battery to get the track pad out. I stop him right there. The track pad cannot be removed and replaced in the Retina machines since the battery is epoxied into the machine. I tell him this and get him a quote for a top case - about 600. He says he doesn't want to do that and will get the top case somewhere else. I tell him, that if he gets it to me, I will replace the top case for him (gotta have business ya know smile.gif ).

Anyways, I give him the part number for the top case and he goes him and leaves the machine with me. Alright, not bad.

A week passes
Customer comes back in and brings in a top case. He says he managed to get for 200... RED FLAG! A top case for this should not even be that cheap. I keep my mouth shut and just proceed.
Alright, lets yank this guy apart and replace this top case!

To see what all had to be done, please see this.

Cool, now, just reverse it all with the new top case! DONE!

Press le power button... and... fans spin at 100%...



Okay, I disassemble it... and in the process I break the plastic lock on the fan connector and break an antenna connect from the wifi card...




Alright... okay, Xeb, calm down and think. Alright, lets just go through this machine and figure out the cause of the fans first.

A little while later
After much testing, I conclude that the top case is indeed the cause, so I give the customer a call. I explain to him what is going on and that he top case he ordered is bad. I tell him that it is possible for me to send it in under warranty (smile.gif) and that I would backup his data before hand. He says to go ahead and do it. Okay, well so far, things have sucked.

Lets try getting the data. I booting from my super stick and grab the data from the machine... well.. The drive doesn't want to mount. Okay. Disk warrior? Nope, keeps coming up with and ever increasing amount of overlapped files...






Okay, back to reality. From all of the shutting down and testing, I have caused the SSD to do what all SSDs will eventually do when they loose power a lot - corrupt... great. Okay. Well, good news is that I got the windows side saved before hand. So, I call the guy back and he is upset (I blamed it on the top case smile.gif ), but understanding. He is ifne with whatever I could get.

Alright, now back to my plan of panic and avoidance of demise.

First, I use the customers top case he bought (since it was an apple top case biggrin.gif ), then I manage to glue the connector back onto the airport card and make it look like nothing happened.
The fan connector I don't have to work about. Alright, mail off to Apple for some anti-tankage.

A week passes
Apple, I love you. Top case, airport card, and logic board were all replaced. FIXED!!!

Why not tell the guy you think it's weird he got it that cheap? Where I work we spend lots of time communicating with the customer and explain things to them in a language they can understand.

is it possible to remove the hdd/ssd? I usually take that stuff out and see if what ever it is boots up. i've seen a few drives prevent things form booting or cause the fans to spin 100%.

I used another machine (because I don't have a sled for the Retina SSDs since they are proprietary) and still could get data. Drive was fine, data was corrupt. The fans spinning to 100% is caused by a bad top case. The top case itself has thermal sensors in the top case. Additionally, if there is something in the top case that is not being seen by the logic board, the fans will spin to 100%.
 
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The SCSI Saga

So... anyone here have some REALLY old machines? Well, how is SCSI for you? You know, the super fast interconnect you see on some 1.2GB drives from back in the mid 90s? Yeah, that...

TO BE CONTINUED!
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Xeb View Post

The SCSI Saga

So... anyone here have some REALLY old machines? Well, how is SCSI for you? You know, the super fast interconnect you see on some 1.2GB drives from back in the mid 90s? Yeah, that...

TO BE CONTINUED!

SCSI... I've had those on an old Dell Poweredge I used to have... I can't even recall how old it was when I got it, but it was a repurposed business machine. I am eager to hear this story.
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Love reading through this, subbed biggrin.gif
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The SCSI Saga

So... anyone here have some REALLY old machines? Well, how is SCSI for you? You know, the super fast interconnect you see on some 1.2GB drives from back in the mid 90s? Yeah, that...

TO BE CONTINUED!

I kind of considered some what modern since it was 90s. my Server has it... i think. (dual P4). either way this should be interesting.
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I have an old workstation type server with 2 SCSI drives in it. One is 8 or 9GB and the other is 13GB. Both are on a Adaptec SCSI HBA. I think the mobo is a supermicro with dual slot1 procs (only have one installed though. I was going to play round on it eventually but haven't had the time to do so. I believe it was circa '98 or so.
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Sorry guys, yard work too priority. I will update this sometime later tonight.
 
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Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Seagate 2TB H105 EVGA Hybrid GPU cooler 
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Windows 10 Asus MG279Q - 24" 144Hz 1080p Filco Majestic II w/ Cherry Reds Seasonic X 760W 
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Bitfelix Prodigy Logitech G400 Razer Goliath AKG A701 
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JDS Labs Objective 2 JDS Labs ODAC 
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Core i5 750 3.99 (190x21) 1.376v Load ASUS P7P55d-E Pro GTX 670 FTW <- Poor overclocker :( 8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600 
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Samsung 830 Evo 128GB 2x 2TB  Some DVD drive OSX 10.10.4 
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Asus 1080P Crap TX 750 HAF 922 G400s 
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Apple Keyboard Xbox One controler 
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C2D 2,26GHz under volted @ .978v 8GB  Crucial M4 64GB SSD 500GB Scorpio Black 
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Gsvlip Dudyrm
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Oda'maksv
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
3770k @ 4.5 1.312 load Zotac Z77 ITX Wifi GTX 1070 Gaming 2126/2249 w/ Hybrid cooler TridentX 16GB 2400MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCooling
Samsung 850 Pro 1TB Seagate 2TB H105 EVGA Hybrid GPU cooler 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Asus MG279Q - 24" 144Hz 1080p Filco Majestic II w/ Cherry Reds Seasonic X 760W 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Bitfelix Prodigy Logitech G400 Razer Goliath AKG A701 
AudioAudio
JDS Labs Objective 2 JDS Labs ODAC 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i5 750 3.99 (190x21) 1.376v Load ASUS P7P55d-E Pro GTX 670 FTW <- Poor overclocker :( 8GB (4x2GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveOS
Samsung 830 Evo 128GB 2x 2TB  Some DVD drive OSX 10.10.4 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
Asus 1080P Crap TX 750 HAF 922 G400s 
Mouse PadOther
Apple Keyboard Xbox One controler 
CPURAMHard DriveHard Drive
C2D 2,26GHz under volted @ .978v 8GB  Crucial M4 64GB SSD 500GB Scorpio Black 
OSMonitorKeyboardMouse
OS X 10.0 1280x800 Built-in Trackpad 
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Built-in 
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