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165 vs. 180 *Please read first*

Poll Results: Which one is the better choice in my situation?

 
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    Opteron 180
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    Opteron 165 + DFI Lanparty SLI-DR Expert
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post #1 of 32
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Situation: cheap Corsair ValueSelect 2x 1Gb DDR400

Opteron 180 $299.99
Opteron 165 + DFI LanParty SLI-DR Expert $279.98

Apparently the 165 with a better overclock board than my Asus is cheaper and many of you would think it may be a better option, but then I have these:

Corsair VS1GB400C3 (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200Mhz)

...as shown in Everest. They're both the exact same thing in case you ask. I wonder if that will get me above 2.8Ghz on the 165, if yes I'll definitely go for the cheaper option.

On my current setup I can only acheive 250x11=2750Mhz @ DDR333 2.5-3-3-15, so I'm not sure if I can get a good overclock on the 165 since any lower in CPU multiplier in my 3500+ and it will not manage that speed, at least on this motherboard.
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Having less OC friendly RAM will require a higher divider when using a 9x CPU but it will still work.
Can you get that RAM to run CAS3 timings to possibly improve it's highest stable speed?
Try the method in the link to determine you current MBs max stable speed, you probably can get a 165 or 170 to OCvery well with that MB.
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/31782-...pu-memory.html
    
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Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
Having less OC friendly RAM will require a higher divider when using a 9x CPU but it will still work.
Can you get that RAM to run CAS3 timings to possibly improve it's highest stable speed?
To be honest I haven't touched the 2.75Ghz since beginning of this year.

........and I couldn't find any reviews on these sticks either.

Still 2.5-3-3-15 as far as I know, I don't even remember how I got that 15 at the end.
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Read back for my edit
    
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Read back for my edit
It would take me more time than what I have to figure it out, I only remember that the highest I got on CPU multiplier 11x was 257 FSB, and it wouldn't go any higher when I lowered my multi so I sticked with 11x. After some time the final stable speed was 250 FSB with memory setted to 200Mhz DDR333.
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Perhaps some help in this FAQ too!
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/38169-...roduction.html

My point is, if you can get a good OC from that MB why not just get the CPU and save some money That's a good MB and should do about 270ish, so an Opty 175 11x CPU should have no problem OCing well in it.
    
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Originally Posted by The Duke View Post
Perhaps some help in this FAQ too!
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/38169-...roduction.html

My point is, if you can get a good OC from that MB why not just get the CPU and save some money That's a good MB and should do about 270ish, so an Opty 175 11x CPU should have no problem OCing well in it.
Do you think I can hit 250x12 on the 180? I wanna shoot for 3Ghz if possible.
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Do you think I can hit 250x12 on the 180? I wanna shoot for 3Ghz if possible.
With a good stepping I see no reason not to. That is the question though, will you get a good stepping
    
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With a good stepping I see no reason not to. That is the question though, will you get a good stepping
All I know is that on Newegg, 165 gets CCBBE, and the rest gets CCBWE. Anything's better than my 3500+ though.
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All I know is that on Newegg, 165 gets CCBBE, and the rest gets CCBWE. Anything's better than my 3500+ though.
That is the logic in your 165 and the Expert, which is very sound if you do get the CCBWE.
If you go that route you can recoup some of you expense by selling of MB/CPU you now have too !
    
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