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That bit you've copied in the OP is... I dono, just not correct.

As for the story, I was following this on Ars. Apparently if your connection drops it's resumes once it's back up, but if you lose power to the console during the download, consider your device bricked. The other issue at hand is the fact that the firmware update is 1GB. ONE BLOODY GIG FOR FIRMWARE. For crying out loud, the OS already consumes so much HDD space, and it needs another gig of data to enable features?!?!?

This things OS is bigger than a windows/linux install and obviously nowhere near as functional... Nintendo need to clear this mess up, and fast.

This may be worth a read: http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/the-wii-u-is-here-here-are-the-things-we-hate-about-a-system-we-love

It just seems that the system was rushed which has resulted in a bunch of day 1 patches and a giant firmware update. I'm guessing that a future batch of the hardware will ship with that firmware so it won't need the update. I'm not sure about the games though, it's not dirt cheap to redo a gold master copy of a game, as far as I know, but it might be worth it for Nintendo to streamline the day 1 experience for users a bit.

I had a chance to play with the WiiU yesterday and it's really slow and a pain to navigate with. You have to use the tablet to navigate menus, even though it doesn't offer any advantage, it just shows you icons you can press that could just as easily have been on the screen. When I would press an icon it would show up in the center of the screen and sit there for literally 5-10 seconds doing nothing -- apparently that means it is loading. Even worse, when leaving a menu to go back to the home screen it puts that same icon back in the middle of the screen again for 5-10 seconds as it loads the home screen, and because it's identical it left me wondering if it was bringing me back into that same menu again.

I only had 2-3 minutes to play Super Mario Bros U and it was basically a prettied-up version of the New Super Mario Bros game for the Wii. Was was strange to me was the aliasing, I would thing on a game like SMB that you'd have enough leftover bandwidth for some anti-aliasing.

Thanks for the link.

And yeah I agree, anybody who gets this console early is in for a joyride lol.

Right now, the only real motivation I have for getting this console is Bayonetta 2, but I'm really hoping Platinum have a change of heart and release it for the other platforms too :/

Still, I suppose we can see where this console stands by the time Bayonetta 2 arrives.
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So, the update itself is reaching 1GB in size. Which could take some people over 2 and a half hours as long as their Wii-U is getting a constant ~ 100KB/s+
(And I know plenty of people in the UK who don't even get 1MBit/s ADSL due to where they live)

If your internet drops out, and you don't turn the console off, and internet returns you're fine.
If your internet drops out, and you turn the console off, you're foobared.
Or, if your console just generally loses power for one reason or another whilst 'downloading' the update you're foobared.

So, all in all, Nintendo are off to a great start then?


P.S. I wonder if you buy it in black and brick it on Christmas day, does it double up as a piece of coal for the fire?
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Right now, the only real motivation I have for getting this console is Bayonetta 2, but I'm really hoping Platinum have a change of heart and release it for the other platforms too :/
Still, I suppose we can see where this console stands by the time Bayonetta 2 arrives.
I was slightly agitated to see I wasn't going to be able to Bayonetta 2 on a console whereby I don't have to fling my arms around to do the simplest of combat moves.
Maybe that's a little harsh, but I really loved Bayonetta for the PS3. I Even have the Climax Edition. Why choose to make such an awesome game that deserves to be played by many a Wii-U exclusive.. ;~;
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I can't really agree there. We bought Xbox 360 on launch and from then to now we've gone through 10 of them. Most of them Arcades but 3 were Pros. I had them on a ledge in my basement in a completely open area but we played COD 24/7 literally. I would play from 3-6pm then my bro would take over at 8pm-2am then I would play from 2-6 and the he would play until 3 when I got home. wink.gif No console could have survived our schedule. Our first PS3 died when we played MGS4 for the first time watching all the clips and playing nonstop.
OT: A 5GB "update".... Why couldn't they just burn it to a disc and ship it with the console?

Honestly, the RROD I would assume is more of a "user error". I have never had one between me or any of my friends. Even had a day 1 xbox and 360. Left the 360 on 24/7 for 3 days as I would just pause a Forza race and come back later. Little bit of cleaning and proper airflow and they will last a hell of a long time. 10 360s in that short time is excessive and should take a look at what is really going on.
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I can't really agree there. We bought Xbox 360 on launch and from then to now we've gone through 10 of them. Most of them Arcades but 3 were Pros. I had them on a ledge in my basement in a completely open area but we played COD 24/7 literally. I would play from 3-6pm then my bro would take over at 8pm-2am then I would play from 2-6 and the he would play until 3 when I got home. wink.gif No console could have survived our schedule. Our first PS3 died when we played MGS4 for the first time watching all the clips and playing nonstop.
OT: A 5GB "update".... Why couldn't they just burn it to a disc and ship it with the console?

Honestly, the RROD I would assume is more of a "user error". I have never had one between me or any of my friends. Even had a day 1 xbox and 360. Left the 360 on 24/7 for 3 days as I would just pause a Forza race and come back later. Little bit of cleaning and proper airflow and they will last a hell of a long time. 10 360s in that short time is excessive and should take a look at what is really going on.

Ten 360's in 7(?) years was quite a bit and it wasn't like it was super dusty and never clean but my brother and I weren't the only ones who used it. They would just die off. We considered doing the watercooling gimmick but decided against it. We called Microsoft each time and ended up getting 4 years worth of free Live and a permanent discount on yearly subscriptions. ($50 down to $35)
     
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Honestly, the RROD I would assume is more of a "user error". I have never had one between me or any of my friends. Even had a day 1 xbox and 360. Left the 360 on 24/7 for 3 days as I would just pause a Forza race and come back later. Little bit of cleaning and proper airflow and they will last a hell of a long time. 10 360s in that short time is excessive and should take a look at what is really going on.

Bold is the problem. The average person thinks that when the console is plugged into the wall and TV, thats its. Just play games till you sell/throw it out. People don't know how to clean electronics or take care of it. But they really should be pushing this as needed, though I think they are afraid of scaring off people that think theres something complicated in cleaning a complex piece of tech, they want it to simply work when they press "power".

But its similar to a car. Take care of it, get maintenance, change the fluids, all that, and it'll last almost as long as you tongue.gif. Don't do anything and drive the piss out of it... and well, it'll fall apart on you while your going down the highway hah.

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So, the update itself is reaching 1GB in size. Which could take some people over 2 and a half hours as long as their Wii-U is getting a constant ~ 100KB/s+
(And I know plenty of people in the UK who don't even get 1MBit/s ADSL due to where they live)

If your internet drops out, and you don't turn the console off, and internet returns you're fine.
If your internet drops out, and you turn the console off, you're foobared.
Or, if your console just generally loses power for one reason or another whilst 'downloading' the update you're foobared.

So, all in all, Nintendo are off to a great start then?


P.S. I wonder if you buy it in black and brick it on Christmas day, does it double up as a piece of coal for the fire?
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Right now, the only real motivation I have for getting this console is Bayonetta 2, but I'm really hoping Platinum have a change of heart and release it for the other platforms too :/
Still, I suppose we can see where this console stands by the time Bayonetta 2 arrives.
I was slightly agitated to see I wasn't going to be able to Bayonetta 2 on a console whereby I don't have to fling my arms around to do the simplest of combat moves.
Maybe that's a little harsh, but I really loved Bayonetta for the PS3. I Even have the Climax Edition. Why choose to make such an awesome game that deserves to be played by many a Wii-U exclusive.. ;~;

I have reason to believe that Platinum will release this on Xbox/PS though.

Bayonetta, while a 'successful' release for Platinum, is hardly a killer app, and is an extremely niche name. Why risk sales by totally abandoning your established fan base and moving to the "casual" console?

I dono, either this goes cross-plat or Nintendo paid them enough to make it worth their time to go exclusive... I'm leaning towards the former.
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Thanks for the link.
And yeah I agree, anybody who gets this console early is in for a joyride lol.
Right now, the only real motivation I have for getting this console is Bayonetta 2, but I'm really hoping Platinum have a change of heart and release it for the other platforms too :/
Still, I suppose we can see where this console stands by the time Bayonetta 2 arrives.

It's unlikely, I read somewhere that since Nintendo will publish Bayoneta 2 it will remain a Nintendo exclusive for the foreseeable future
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Thanks for the link.
And yeah I agree, anybody who gets this console early is in for a joyride lol.
Right now, the only real motivation I have for getting this console is Bayonetta 2, but I'm really hoping Platinum have a change of heart and release it for the other platforms too :/
Still, I suppose we can see where this console stands by the time Bayonetta 2 arrives.

It's unlikely, I read somewhere that since Nintendo will publish Bayoneta 2 it will remain a Nintendo exclusive for the foreseeable future

-_________-

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Well Platinum better enjoy being poor lol.
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Well Platinum better enjoy being poor lol.

lol don't be too hard on them, without Nintendos monies Bayoneta 2 wouldn't even exist since Sega abandoned it
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Well Platinum better enjoy being poor lol.
Heh.. Another title I'll have to miss out on then.. I won't be getting a Wii-U unfortunately..
There's other priorities and tech which'll come first over a 'toy'.
The only reason I call the Wii(U) as a toy is it's fun, for maybe an hour, but after that it's just a gimmick again of waving my arms around at the TV and to have a lil laugh with family as such times of Christmas and Birthdays.
 
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