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Glitch? It's new wu taking into account the much more efficient gpu processing compared to smp
But it's a beta WU, meaning it's still in the "testing" sort of stages, meaning it may be changed before it's actually released as a normal WU. ( i believe)
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Wouldn't a Quadro be better for folding than a GeForce?

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Wouldn't a Quadro be better for folding than a GeForce?
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That's a good though. I'll search it up and reply back in awhile.
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But you see the 480 take around 40 more watts than the 570, so the 40 uses a grand total of 250W.
When we get our power bill I will be flipped on multiple times for such a high cost if I get one of those cards I'm afraid, lol.
But the Keplar series isn't great at Folding? I thought they were decent, but not as good as the Fermi series.

As far as power efficient folding goes I would be looking at a 560ti then, they don't do as well in upfront $ to points as a good deal on a GF110 (560ti 448, 570, 580) but in terms of PPD/W they were the best Nvidia GPUs last I checked. There should be a lot of 560tis on the marketplace, which is probably where I'd look.

If power efficiency is a priority then you might want to consider selling your AMD GPU and putting that money towards the Nvidia GPU upgrade. Because even if you don't fold on the AMD GPU because of how power inefficient it is for folding it would still be more effective to combine the power draw of your gaming GPU and your folding GPU into just one Nvidia GPU that could fill both needs.

You are right that Kepler is not as powerful for folding as the Fermis that they replace, and we shouldn't expect that to change even with FaH core updates because of the compute features removed from the currently available Geforce cards. They are however fairly power efficient, so it might be a good idea to compare the points and power draw of something like a 560ti to a 660ti. That way you might be able to get the folding ability and power efficiency of a 560ti while retaining/ improving upon the gaming ability of your current AMD GPU.

EDIT: Alright I found some info to determine where the 560ti and 660ti stack up in terms of folding performance, and it's pretty much how I remembered. It looks like even a 680 would only roughly equal a 560ti at stock clocks, so the 660ti wouldn't be a good choice for you IMO. It looks like your two choices currently are add a 560ti dedicated folding card if you want to still keep your AMD card for gaming, or to sell the AMD card and upgrade to a 570/580 as a folding and gaming card.
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Wouldn't a Quadro be better for folding than a GeForce?
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No, quadros are expensive and no better at folding than the Geforce
Edited by juano - 11/20/12 at 5:01pm
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I've been thinking about the same thing, similar price range too. $230ish USD. If I would have known I'd would've gotten back into folding and that ATI cards suck at it I wouldnt have gotten a 6870 haha.

From what I've read here on the PPD that some are getting and the cost of the cards at newegg the 560, 570, 580 cards are the sweet spot. Just wondering how much better the 6xx cards will be once a core optimized for them is released.

Is the performance still pretty much based on the # of cores?
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I've been thinking about the same thing, similar price range too. $230ish USD. If I would have known I'd would've gotten back into folding and that ATI cards suck at it I wouldnt have gotten a 6870 haha.
From what I've read here on the PPD that some are getting and the cost of the cards at newegg the 560, 570, 580 cards are the sweet spot. Just wondering how much better the 6xx cards will be once a core optimized for them is released.
Is the performance still pretty much based on the # of cores?

If you're looking to just add a new card to fold on then you ought to know that running an AMD and Nvidia GPU in the same system can bring more headaches than sticking to just one GPU manufacturer per machine. If you were looking to upgrade away from the 6870 or stick a new nvidia GPU into another machine to just fold then you'd be fine. Seeing as you only have a 6870 we can probably find a GPU for 230ish USD that would be a gaming upgrade as well as being able to fold without too much trouble, so I'd probably just replace the 6870 in your shoes. Assuming you are US based I should be able to find you a deal pretty easily since I'm already looking for the same thing for cam. Just give me a little more info like how often would you like to fold (24/7 is the correct answer here by the way) what PSU do you have, can you stand your GPU putting 250w of heat into your room, and how quiet do you require the card to be.

As I mentioned above, Kepler is not as powerful for folding as the Fermis that they replace, and we shouldn't expect that to change even with FaH core updates because of the compute features removed from the currently available Geforce cards. I hope we see a big Kepler with compute features included eventually, but for now as far as maximum points per GPU goes the 580 wins over the 680 by quite a bit
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AVOID THE 570HD IF AT ALL POSSIBLE.
The cooler is terrible, even at 100% fan speed, which is so loud you will not be able to keep it in a room you use, it ran at 90C on both stock and Noctua TIM. I repeat, that cooler is terrible please do not buy that card with the main intent of folding on it.
Yesterday had the best GPU deal I'd seen in a long time which was an MSI 560ti 448 for $128 after rebate from newegg which is insane, but it's out of stock/expired now of course. I'll keep my eye out for a good deal for you if I see one, but I don't often catch CA deals, do US newegg or amazon deals work for you?
It's funny you should say that. I was folding on four of them at work and I didn't hear a thing. confused.gif
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I've got several other 65nm Intel's to get up running again so I'd prob stick the new nV card in here on the 3770 and let the ATI take up a core or 2 of a Q66. I'd never stick 2 different cards in the same PC. Not worth the hassle when I have prob 3-4 complete PCs. Of course it'd be 24/7. No need to specifically look for a card, I've been searching for BF TV deals recently. I may be new to OCN but I've been around folding since like v2.x of the client in 2002 and when WUs were worth 1.2 points. wink.gif
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GTX 460s are good as well, Mine will pull a bit over 14k with the "easy" WU's, they can be had for about $100. I think 560Ti's will bring anywhere from 15-20k with OC, They are starting to come down in price, around the $150 range sometimes.
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