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post #611 of 1014
12/9/12 at 9:47pm
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The only things you can buy with money are different guns, camo, or a booster to earn XP (and thus certs) faster by a maximum of 50%. All upgrades, be them for guns or whatever, are gotten via certs. All weapons may also be gotten via certs.
Even with money, there's no real substitute for skill, keeping Pay2Win to a minimum.

it's a typical MMO though, which means you either pay money to get decent weapons to stand a fair chance or you be a neckbeard and play the game like it's your full time job.

I have the stock NC Gauss Saw, with advanced forward grip, compensator, and reflex x2 scope. 330 certs.

Resistive shields and Nanoweave armor helps too, total; under 100 certs.

You could get enough certs for all that by making an account and letting it sit idle for 20 days.

Almost all guns (besides rocket pods, AA rockets, and lock-on rockets) are sidegrades, not upgrades. Certs make the weapon, and money can only buy getting certs a little bit faster, not buy them directly.

At least try the game before making assumptions.
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12/9/12 at 10:35pm
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it's a typical MMO though, which means you either pay money to get decent weapons to stand a fair chance or you be a neckbeard and play the game like it's your full time job.
Except 90% of the starting weapons are decent?
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12/9/12 at 11:20pm
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it's a typical MMO though, which means you either pay money to get decent weapons to stand a fair chance or you be a neckbeard and play the game like it's your full time job.
Except 90% of the starting weapons are decent?

The only weapons you really need to buy are vehicle specific. All infantry weapons are good enough. Earn certs and own people, it's that easy.
post #614 of 1014
12/10/12 at 4:49am
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I have the stock NC Gauss Saw, with advanced forward grip, compensator, and reflex x2 scope. 330 certs.
Resistive shields and Nanoweave armor helps too, total; under 100 certs.
You could get enough certs for all that by making an account and letting it sit idle for 20 days.
Almost all guns (besides rocket pods, AA rockets, and lock-on rockets) are sidegrades, not upgrades. Certs make the weapon, and money can only buy getting certs a little bit faster, not buy them directly.
At least try the game before making assumptions.

I have played about 5 hours on it so far. The utterly horrible optimization giving only 20% GPU usage in fights and low FPS due to the single-threaded design doesn't help either. The vehicles in this game are some of the worst and laziest programming I've ever seen. I use to think BF3 was bad with the T90 ice skating blades and tourettes spasms when on rubble. But in PS2, getting stuck on the terrain by simply driving over a patch of dirt or a pothole in a giant tank is pretty sad -- there goes your resources and have fun waiting to be able to buy it again... The quad bike making a crashing noise every time a wheel lifts off the ground a couple inches and touches down is quite annoying too. What do you mean let it sit idle for 20 days? Just log in? Anyways, I prefer other fps games like Battlefield and CS but even BF3 still suffers from some of the same "unlock" mentality as well.
Edited by Wonky Sausage - 12/10/12 at 5:02am
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12/10/12 at 6:45am
I kind of disagree that all the starting weapons are decent. As far as I can tell all the stock sniper rifles are complete garbage.

On the Vanu side the combat medic and HA starting weapons are good but the stock carbine is totally outclassed by some of the other guns. I'm pretty sure however that the TR starting weapons are really good.

If I could do it over I might have even picked the TR. I thought I liked the scythe design the most but the mosquito is really cool looking and I mostly fly. Plus it seems like Reavers are the easiest ESF to shoot down. NC just seems to be weak in general at this point in time. I don't know if it's coincidence but on the page where it shows your kills breakdown I've had way more NC then TR kills. Like 65/35.

I have heard that the TR MBT is awful though so theres that I suppose.

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I have played about 5 hours on it so far. The utterly horrible optimization giving only 20% GPU usage in fights and low FPS due to the single-threaded design doesn't help either. The vehicles in this game are some of the worst and laziest programming I've ever seen. I use to think BF3 was bad with the T90 ice skating blades and tourettes spasms when on rubble. But in PS2, getting stuck on the terrain by simply driving over a patch of dirt or a pothole in a giant tank is pretty sad -- there goes your resources and have fun waiting to be able to buy it again... The quad bike making a crashing noise every time a wheel lifts off the ground a couple inches and touches down is quite annoying too. What do you mean let it sit idle for 20 days? Just log in? Anyways, I prefer other fps games like Battlefield and CS but even BF3 still suffers from some of the same "unlock" mentality as well.
Edited by Wonky Sausage - Today at 8:02 am

I've literally had zero issues running the game. You're not the only one who's said this though so I guess some people are having issues.

The vehicles are awesome though so I don't really understand your complaints there. You do pretty much have to spend 7-15 bucks on each one however to get it outfitted right. You passively gain certs though is what he's talking about. I'm pretty sure the rate is 12 per day but you have to log in once every 24 hours or you stop accumulating them. It's supposed to be so that people who play less can keep up with the no lifers. At least relatively.
Edited by jtom320 - 12/10/12 at 6:49am
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post #616 of 1014
12/10/12 at 6:58am
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As far as I can tell all the stock sniper rifles are complete garbage

Lol wut. The NC14 bolt driver is the most awesome weapon in the galaxy. I use it as my reliable 300+ m sniper, as a mid range covert sniper, and as a shotgun tongue.gif
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12/10/12 at 10:29am
It's funny reading all the people who have little-to-no experience with the game talking about how things are "pay to win." Just about all of the things that really benefit you and raise your potential within the game come from Cert points. Cert points are gained through time played and experience earned - not directly through money. If you don't have a subscription, you have to play 50% longer than the people that do. Having to play 50% more isn't the end of the world and definitely doesn't take any effort from people who have a sub or add that much effort for the people who don't.

Even for the people who are able to earn Cert faster, you still have to put a fair amount of time into the game for what you want. So nobody can just pay money and get everything they want.
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12/10/12 at 10:34am
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I kind of disagree that all the starting weapons are decent. As far as I can tell all the stock sniper rifles are complete garbage.
On the Vanu side the combat medic and HA starting weapons are good but the stock carbine is totally outclassed by some of the other guns. I'm pretty sure however that the TR starting weapons are really good.
If I could do it over I might have even picked the TR. I thought I liked the scythe design the most but the mosquito is really cool looking and I mostly fly. Plus it seems like Reavers are the easiest ESF to shoot down. NC just seems to be weak in general at this point in time. I don't know if it's coincidence but on the page where it shows your kills breakdown I've had way more NC then TR kills. Like 65/35.
I have heard that the TR MBT is awful though so theres that I suppose.
The VS sniper is the only bad default weapon, because it functions more as a scout rifle than a sniper because the damage drop off is so extreme. The other two stock snipers are good.

VS HA's Orion is actually very close to being the best VS HA gun because of how little recoil it has. It just comes down to preference on HA guns.

Medic is again preference, as yes, the CME and V-H45 are both "better" guns, but the CME is unweildy in close quarters and the V-H45 is worthless beyond 75m, even in single shot mode.

The VS1 is versatile, effective but not great in both situations. Almost all of them are. It's the specialized weapons that you need to unlock (with the exception of the VS sniper, the Phantasm/V-10 are in a class of their own for VS).
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The VS sniper is the only bad default weapon, because it functions more as a scout rifle than a sniper because the damage drop off is so extreme. The other two stock snipers are good.
VS HA's Orion is actually very close to being the best VS HA gun because of how little recoil it has. It just comes down to preference on HA guns.
Medic is again preference, as yes, the CME and V-H45 are both "better" guns, but the CME is unweildy in close quarters and the V-H45 is worthless beyond 75m, even in single shot mode.
The VS1 is versatile, effective but not great in both situations. Almost all of them are. It's the specialized weapons that you need to unlock (with the exception of the VS sniper, the Phantasm/V-10 are in a class of their own for VS).

Yeah don't get me wrong the Orion especially is a good weapon.

I'm not sure what the VS1 is to be honest with you. As far as the carbine's go though the solstice while an all right weapon is nowhere near as good as the serpent or the VX6/7. LA being my favorite class and the infantry class I have the most hours into a lot of what I said is based off that.

Had no idea the TR/NC starting snipers were good. I was under the impression they were semi-auto pea shooters like the VS sniper. I guess I have weird tase in snnipers in general seeing how I prefer the ghost over the V10. I just think the skill cap is much higher with a low powered scope. Aggresive recon is really the only way to play sniper and be helpful to your team IMHO.
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12/10/12 at 12:31pm
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I kind of disagree that all the starting weapons are decent. As far as I can tell all the stock sniper rifles are complete garbage.
On the Vanu side the combat medic and HA starting weapons are good but the stock carbine is totally outclassed by some of the other guns. I'm pretty sure however that the TR starting weapons are really good.
If I could do it over I might have even picked the TR. I thought I liked the scythe design the most but the mosquito is really cool looking and I mostly fly. Plus it seems like Reavers are the easiest ESF to shoot down. NC just seems to be weak in general at this point in time. I don't know if it's coincidence but on the page where it shows your kills breakdown I've had way more NC then TR kills. Like 65/35.
I have heard that the TR MBT is awful though so theres that I suppose.
The VS sniper is the only bad default weapon, because it functions more as a scout rifle than a sniper because the damage drop off is so extreme. The other two stock snipers are good.

VS HA's Orion is actually very close to being the best VS HA gun because of how little recoil it has. It just comes down to preference on HA guns.

Medic is again preference, as yes, the CME and V-H45 are both "better" guns, but the CME is unweildy in close quarters and the V-H45 is worthless beyond 75m, even in single shot mode.

The VS1 is versatile, effective but not great in both situations. Almost all of them are. It's the specialized weapons that you need to unlock (with the exception of the VS sniper, the Phantasm/V-10 are in a class of their own for VS).

I would agree.

I am pretty disappointed with most of the NC small arms to be honest, especially the carbines. When I play NC for a couple hours and then I switch to VS or TR it's like playing a different game. But I already spent all my Alpha Squad cash on my NC toon so now I just feel like not even playing anymore. It's like the more I play my NC the more disappointed I am in ground pounding which is actually a lot of the game and quite fun. Maybe I'm being whiny.
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