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so, when you look at it, the 660 beats the 7850 out of the box, but when overclocked the 7850 kicks butt. but, the 660 has better features like physx, and they have better drivers. then what also is going for the 7850?? any other great things i should know about..?

According to TPU, the GTX660 is already %15 faster at stock clocks, in their individual reviews for the cards the HD7850 gets ~%20 performance boost from OC and the GTX660 gets ~%10 boost from OCing, so in the end the GTX660 should still be like %5 faster.

But then again the HD7850 is much cheaper and gives you much better PPD, for the GTX660 you should be able to get a HD7870 which is much better than both cards. thumb.gif
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so, when you look at it, the 660 beats the 7850 out of the box, but when overclocked the 7850 kicks butt. but, the 660 has better features like physx, and they have better drivers. then what also is going for the 7850?? any other great things i should know about..?

Thats about it really, I don't know the prices down under but here is an example from US

Gigabyte HD7850 2Gb 159.99 after MiR
Galaxy GTX 660 2Gb 199.99 after MiR
HIS HD7870 2Gb 189.99 after MiR

so its more like hd 7870 vs Gtx 660 pricewise, and that battle is 7870s for sure. If you really want physx and more up to date drivers you could still go the Nvidia way. Nvidia cards usually come with Assassins Creed 3, while Amd ones come with FarCry 3.
post #23 of 34
If you're contemplating spending X amount of money on a GTX 660, then your other choice should be the 7870.

With that said, 7870 hands down every single time.

By the way, most people achieve 30% or higher overclocks on the 7850 which puts it ahead of an overclocked GTX 660.


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If you're contemplating spending X amount of money on a GTX 660, then your other choice should be the 7870.
With that said, 7870 hands down every single time.
By the way, most people achieve 30% or higher overclocks on the 7850 which puts it ahead of an overclocked GTX 660.
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would that put it in front of a stock clocked 7870, but with the memory clock adjusted aswell?
    
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would that put it in front of a stock clocked 7870, but with the memory clock adjusted aswell?

clock for clock HD 7850 is anywhere between 5 - 15% slower than HD 7870 depending on the game. HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) matches or slightly exceeds a HD 7870 (1 Ghz).

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/38809-powercolor-pcs-hd7850/?page=5
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7850_PCS_Plus/6.html

With the 12.11 drivers a HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will be faster than GTX 660(1.15 Ghz) . And don't forget the GTX 660 is a poor overclocker because of Nvidia power target restrictions and its OC performance scaling is less than HD 7850 which has a 256 bit memory system with 32 ROPs. Even with the older AMD drivers the GTX 660 OC could not match up to a HD 7870 .

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/09/19/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_overclocking_review/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/3

BF3 1920 x 1080 Ultra 4x AA

GTX 660 OC (1.15 Ghz) - avg 49.6 min 31 fps
HD 7870 (1 Ghz) = HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) - avg 55.4 min 37 fps (with 12.11 drivers)

remember the HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will have higher min fps too because of those 32 ROPs. try to pick up a PCS+ HD 7850 (1 Ghz) or MSI HD 7850 power edition (950 Mhz)
Edited by raghu78 - 11/22/12 at 5:52am
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clock for clock HD 7850 is anywhere between 5 - 15% slower than HD 7870 depending on the game. HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) matches or slightly exceeds a HD 7870 (1 Ghz).
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/38809-powercolor-pcs-hd7850/?page=5
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7850_PCS_Plus/6.html
With the 12.11 drivers a HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will be faster than GTX 660(1.15 Ghz) . And don't forget the GTX 660 is a poor overclocker because of Nvidia power target restrictions and its OC performance scaling is less than HD 7850 which has a 256 bit memory system with 32 ROPs. Even with the older AMD drivers the GTX 660 OC could not match up to a HD 7870 .
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/09/19/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_overclocking_review/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/3
BF3 1920 x 1080 Ultra 4x AA
GTX 660 OC (1.15 Ghz) - avg 49.6 min 29 fps
HD 7870 (1 Ghz) = HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) - avg 55.4 min 37 fps (with 12.11 drivers)
remember the HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will have higher min fps too because of those 32 ROPs. try to pick up a PCS+ HD 7850 (1 Ghz) or MSI HD 7850 power edition (950 Mhz)

I think i might go for the power edition, then just tap it up to 1ghz. Either way it will be an upgrade from my double dissapation 6850 from xfx...
    
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I think i might go for the power edition, then just tap it up to 1ghz. Either way it will be an upgrade from my double dissapation 6850 from xfx...

the MSI HD 7850 power edition is built to overclock. very high quality components. even at stock voltage that card is going to hit 1.05 - 1.1 Ghz.
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OP: Can you afford a 7870?
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clock for clock HD 7850 is anywhere between 5 - 15% slower than HD 7870 depending on the game. HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) matches or slightly exceeds a HD 7870 (1 Ghz).
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/38809-powercolor-pcs-hd7850/?page=5
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_7850_PCS_Plus/6.html
With the 12.11 drivers a HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will be faster than GTX 660(1.15 Ghz) . And don't forget the GTX 660 is a poor overclocker because of Nvidia power target restrictions and its OC performance scaling is less than HD 7850 which has a 256 bit memory system with 32 ROPs. Even with the older AMD drivers the GTX 660 OC could not match up to a HD 7870 .
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/09/19/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_overclocking_review/
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/11/12/fall_2012_gpu_driver_comparison_roundup/3
BF3 1920 x 1080 Ultra 4x AA
GTX 660 OC (1.15 Ghz) - avg 49.6 min 29 fps
HD 7870 (1 Ghz) = HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) - avg 55.4 min 37 fps (with 12.11 drivers)
remember the HD 7850(1.15 Ghz) will have higher min fps too because of those 32 ROPs. try to pick up a PCS+ HD 7850 (1 Ghz) or MSI HD 7850 power edition (950 Mhz)

From where you got the GTX660 numbers?? According to [H] in the link you provided it does 31 min and 49.6 avg but with the old 306.02 drivers.

Also, according to the TPU, the HD7850 is %20 slower than the HD7870 at stock speeds @ 1920X1200 after the 12.11 drivers update.
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From where you got the GTX660 numbers?? According to [H] in the link you provided it does 31 min and 49.6 avg but with the old 306.02 drivers.

you are correct. made the change in my post.
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