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Hey guys, so I'm looking to build a gaming desktop for my bro. He's not interested in OC'ing any time soon. He's almost certainly not going to be upgrading any time soon. Whatever $400 is spent now is going to be it for a while. We already have KB/Mouse/Monitor...so we're just looking for the tower. Here's what I've got for now. I'm trying to decide between the 500GB HDD and a 60GB Mushkin Enhanced Chronos 60GB drive (about the same price).

 
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Do you mean you already bought the components? You could save money on the motherboard. It has heatsinked 6+2 vrms which make it better for overclocking. If you don't want to overclock it then you can go with a cheaper mobo.

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Sorry. I haven't purchased them yet. I know I could choose a slightly cheaper mobo....but I think that's one of the prettiest FM2 mobos out there. Also, it has 4 RAM slots....which is big because upgrading RAM is cheap. I don't know if he'll ever need more than 8GB...but it's much cheaper to have four slots if he does end up upgrading it. Also, the heatsinks and 6+2 simply means greater longevity to me.
 
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For 400 $ FM 2 is the way to go .
That AsRock on the other hand is not a good choice.
Go for a mobo with a good VRM stage if you want some overclocking.
If you are nto interested in overclocking go for a 5700 APU and the board you ve chosen.
And in this area you have very few choices.There is the top FM 2 from MSI and the top from Gigabyte that look good.They are both based on the 85 chipset.
   
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Not interested in much overclocking, but I'm assuming that the $5 difference means it's definitely worth getting the A10-5800k over the 5700k. So, I am looking into an A85 chipset. I wasn't aware that the 85 is the best chipset. I'm now looking at this ASRock A85X Mobo. I'm also considering this Biostar A85X Mobo and the Gigabyte A85X Mobo.

Now, I'm leaning towards the ASRock one mostly because it's all black, pretty, and it's ASRock. I know that ASRock is Asus's "2nd-tier" brand....but ASRock is still considered a good brand of motherboards. Gigabyte tends to be a "first tier" company, but I've had kind of grouchy and less-than-perfect performance from my 990FXA. Nothing bad, but it doesn't have a UEFI BIOS and is missing a few features. Also, it's not particularly pretty (I know, I'm crazy). The Biostar motherboard is prettier than the Gigabyte one, but it's by no means even a "2nd-tier" company. In fact, Biostar is kind of a lower-end company....so I'm heavily leaning towards the A85X ASRock now. Opinions?
 
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A few problems with the build that I see are as follows:

HD: We can work a better performing solution into this budget easily.

PSU: If you're going to spend $60 on a PSU get an 80+ gold unit instead.

RAM: Take advantage of free RAM w/mobo purchase at newegg, don't pay for something you don't have to.


Solution:

CPU/GPU/RAM/MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1102113
Comes with free RAM kit and heatsunk VRMs, going micro-ATX here. I think you can probably live with the tradeoff of only having 2 RAM slots if you are getting the RAM for those slots for free anyway. Spend some time after assembly tweaking with RAM settings. See what sort of speed you can get out of them at ~1.6V to help with the GPU performance. If you want to save ~$20 use the same combo but with the 5600K instead, the GPU performance cut isn't significant since the IMC is the bottleneck either way.

HD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167122
A 60GB SSD is too small. After installing windows, the swap file plus windows and formatting will consume like 40GB of the available space. Don't risk it... This SSD is big enough so skip a mechy for most peoples needs. Can always add a mechy later as a media drive if needed. This is also a very good performing unit.

PSU: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008XEYT5M/?tag=pcpapi-20 or http://www.amazon.com/dp/B006BCKDGW/?tag=pcpapi-20
Same price, better efficiency, less heat, less noise.

Case: http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0074V2UXI/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

$397 shipped. (by my math this is $20 cheaper than the build originally proposed)
Edited by mdocod - 11/21/12 at 6:51pm
     
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I don't see where that Mobo/CPU comes with RAM.....but I do like that case AND PSU. I'm updating my list now.

Also, I think I have a 3.5" drive that I might try to give to him. But I'll keep that Intel 330-series in mind.

Also, as much as I LOVE Fractal....that 1000 looks like a TERRIBLE case. Zero cable management, crap design. I don't know if I can bring myself to recommend it.
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Put the CPU/MOBO combo in your cart and you'll see the RAM pop up in your cart with it.

Certainly change the case if you don't like that one. I personally consider it to be a very well made little unit for the money. Cable management is overrated on these simple systems IMO. I've seen some very tidy results in these core 1000s.

That SSD deal just sold out. Knew that wouldn't last long I should have told you to jump on it quick... Sorry frown.gif
     
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Well, I'll consider the case. However, it just seems like it's missing so many little things that even if it's a well made case, the lack of features is really a hinderance. I'll watch some reviews and decide for sure.

Awesome catch on the RAM. I wonder how long the deal will last. My brother isn't ready to order just yet. It's a Christmas gift, so my parents will order sometime in the next couple weeks.

Also, what's the opinion on the Corsair CX430 PSU? Quite a bit cheaper than the Gold-rated ones.
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For a machine in this budget, I don't think anyone would fault you for using a builder series corsair. They aren't exactly highly regarded units but after MIR they are often less than $20 so it's hard to argue with that price.

Deals and availability will be changing very rapidly from now till the middle of next week as the black/cyber super-weekend ramps up and down. Best build options will change minute by minute.

Had you asked me 2 days ago what hard drive to put in this machine, it would have been the 300GB Velociraptor deal for $70 at newegg. Now that deal is gone and the Intel 330 came and went pretty fast. Now the $140 240GB intel 330 looks pretty good from newegg, or a $70 single platter 1TB drive from NCIX. I wouldn't suggest a 128GB or smaller drive as a solo drive on a machine, too easy to run out of space really fast.
     
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