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Google is doing this more so it doesn't have to pay "tolls" aka taxes. Funny how quick people are to jump on the wagon and think Google is doing to benefit all of mankind. The UN wants to allow countries to place taxes for people accessing data from other countries. Think of how just 10 years ago when people used to make long distance calls, the countries would collect taxes from the carriers off those calls. Now everyone is doing things over the internet(email, voicechat, chat, webchat, etc), those countries are losing those taxes. If the UN has its way, Google and any other website in the world could end up paying taxes. This is all about money. Google's battle is the right battle,they are just fighting it for the wrong reasons. The UN would break the internet apart. But Google isn't the peoples champions like most of you think they are lol. They are fighting this battle because of taxes. lol
Here is a better and clearer picture of whats really going on, from a REAL news organization: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625

Limiting taxes also falls under "people's champion" in my book.
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Limiting taxes also falls under "people's champion" in my book.

They're not limiting taxes, they're getting creative with finding ways to just pay less taxes. For them only. It may have the trickle down effect, but essentially we could just hope and pray the UN doesn't do something stupid. Why is the UN handling international tax law anyways? frown.gif

I have high hopes for this project, but I guess time will tell how it ends up. I try to avoid the hype train anymore... been burned too many times to count.
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Google is doing this more so it doesn't have to pay "tolls" aka taxes. Funny how quick people are to jump on the wagon and think Google is doing it to benefit all of mankind. The UN wants to allow countries to place taxes for people accessing data from other countries. Think of how just 10 years ago when people used to make long distance calls, the countries would collect taxes from the carriers off those calls. Now everyone is doing things over the internet(email, voicechat, chat, videochat, etc), those countries are losing those taxes. If the UN has its way, Google and any other website in the world could end up paying taxes. This is all about money. Google's battle is the right battle,they are just fighting it for the wrong reasons. The UN would break the internet apart. But Google isn't the peoples champions like most of you think they are lol. They are fighting this battle because of taxes. lol

Here is a better and clearer picture of whats really going on, from a REAL news organization: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625

Cool, more reason to support Google. I could care less for their hidden reasons (assuming that you are correct) as long as they are trying to help everyone. That just proves that they are trying to help everyone, whether it is intentional or not.
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Idk even without all of the other possible negative outcomes of this meeting, looking to add tariffs to the internet flies in the face of globalization. So why would the UN be pushing for them? I really think we ought to be more worried about the other possible negative outcomes.
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Google is like the Government of the Web.
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Google is doing this more so it doesn't have to pay "tolls" aka taxes. Funny how quick people are to jump on the wagon and think Google is doing it to benefit all of mankind. The UN wants to allow countries to place taxes for people accessing data from other countries. Think of how just 10 years ago when people used to make long distance calls, the countries would collect taxes from the carriers off those calls. Now everyone is doing things over the internet(email, voicechat, chat, videochat, etc), those countries are losing those taxes. If the UN has its way, Google and any other website in the world could end up paying taxes. This is all about money. Google's battle is the right battle,they are just fighting it for the wrong reasons. The UN would break the internet apart. But Google isn't the peoples champions like most of you think they are lol. They are fighting this battle because of taxes. lol
Here is a better and clearer picture of whats really going on, from a REAL news organization: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625

Are you suggesting that people are naively assuming that googles motives are altruistic? OFC they aren't. But in this particular case their interests coincide with ours. The US has zilch reason to give up any control over the net. Google, and other tech companies have no reason to submit to being taxed. If countries are going bankrupt let them figure it out. Let them implement a tax that their ISP would pass along to their consumers. Let's see how that works out. Fail of an idea, like so many others lately from government.
    
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Google is doing this more so it doesn't have to pay "tolls" aka taxes. Funny how quick people are to jump on the wagon and think Google is doing it to benefit all of mankind. The UN wants to allow countries to place taxes for people accessing data from other countries. Think of how just 10 years ago when people used to make long distance calls, the countries would collect taxes from the carriers off those calls. Now everyone is doing things over the internet(email, voicechat, chat, videochat, etc), those countries are losing those taxes. If the UN has its way, Google and any other website in the world could end up paying taxes. This is all about money. Google's battle is the right battle,they are just fighting it for the wrong reasons. The UN would break the internet apart. But Google isn't the peoples champions like most of you think they are lol. They are fighting this battle because of taxes. lol

Here is a better and clearer picture of whats really going on, from a REAL news organization: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20429625

Cool, more reason to support Google. I could care less for their hidden reasons (assuming that you are correct) as long as they are trying to help everyone. That just proves that they are trying to help everyone, whether it is intentional or not.

*couldn't care less.

And I agree, who cares what their intentions are? So long as they have the same view on the subject.
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What they are promoting is what the free internet should be about, but frankly, I'm all for the censorship of child pornography, slave trade, illegal activity, etc. The internet should be no different then it is like on the streets. A "free" internet only promotes that sort of garbage of continuing, and escalating, around the world.
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I like google as much as the next person for simple reasons, but when I see the sheep herd moving in one direction I go the other direction. Just because they provide me something does not mean I will follow them like people followed Jim Jones...
    
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I like google as much as the next person for simple reasons, but when I see the sheep herd moving in one direction I go the other direction. Just because they provide me something does not mean I will follow them like people followed Jim Jones...

Bringing up sheep, eh? Well, a sheep likes to call others sheep to hide themselves. I assume you are not the same though. Be careful of your words, because people can be less of a sheep than you can.
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