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Poll Results: After recent driver updates and patches are you satisfied with performance given the visuals?

 
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I just beat the game. I enjoyed it very much, definitely should be looked at for GOTY.
With everything maxed out with 8MSAA I stayed at a steady 60fps with some severe drops in places at 1200p. Took it down to 4MSAA and now a constant 80 max 120fps. Weird tongue.gif
Edit : Just re-read the recent posts. Will try this when I get home cause everything running smooth with x4.

I'm not on the newest drivers and I'm not using crossfire as you're using SLI. I bet you that one 670 wont get you a constant 80FPS with 8MSAA with everything else maxed tongue.gif
    
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I did a little bit of testing myself with MSI AB running in the background. Tested with alpha to coverage off and msaa off and shadows on high i get straight 60FPS. Then i did the same settings with shadows maxed and that brought me down to about 45-50FPS give or take the area you're in. Then i brought shadows back down to high and put alpha to coverage back to enhanced still with msaa off and my FPS went back to 45-50FPS give or take the area you're in. Then i turned alpha to coverage back off and msaa to 2 just 2 and my FPS went down to 29. It would not go any higher then 29 and so i turned it back off and got my 60FPS back.
So IMO msaa is very very demanding or broking and keep in mind I'm using 12.10 drivers. So for us single 7970 users msaa ain't going to happen if you want straight 60FPS. Alpha to coverage -Enhanced, MSAA - doesn't matter if it's 2,4,8, and shadows maxed, is FPS killer on a single 7970. I have not did any testing using 12.11 drivers with cap 2.
Also forgot to mention. Every other setting was maxed out even postfx with vsync on 1 with shadows on high. Alpha to coverage doesn't hit your FPS as hard as MSAA does. So for the ones thinking postfx is the problem? It isn't. MSAA is the problem.

I can prove on my end that msaa is not an issue at all, but post fx is the massive killer. I go from 100fps to 28 in some areas with post fx set from medium to high. When I leave post fx on medium and set msaa to 8, the average 100 fps does down to about 95. Post fx is massivly killing my system by a huge amount. A seriously huge amount! msaa on the other hand does not seem to affect my fps by more than 5fps decrease.
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I can prove on my end that msaa is not an issue at all, but post fx is the massive killer. I go from 100fps to 28 in some areas with post fx set from medium to high. When I leave post fx on medium and set msaa to 8, the average 100 fps does down to about 95. Post fx is massivly killing my system by a huge amount. A seriously huge amount! msaa on the other hand does not seem to affect my fps by more than 5fps decrease.

You must be using crossfire? That is weird as hell though. PostFX is perfectly fine for me, but MSAA gives me the troll face. How does MSAA kill just one card and postfx doesn't, but postfx kills 2 cards and MSAA doesn't? confused.gif You should be killing this game with 2 7970's even with postfx maxed. Maybe 12.11 drivers is making postfx the killer for you and 12.10 is making msaa the killer for me lol
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maybe this is helpful
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The very best thing you can do on a newer Nvidia-based system is if your looking to run everything at max, completely leave **OFF** the MSAA setting for time being ingame, and use one of these other AA fixes listed below. the internal MSAA control is very unoptimized and buggy, and causing 90% of everyones framerate drops along with crashing and stuttering/screen chop. enabling 2, 4 or 8x modes significantly increases stuttering, graphics glitches and occasional artifacting and lighting/model anomalies, and even turning on 2x can cut what was 70fps down to 30. Nvidia has already confirmed they are fixing this. But for now, AA is pretty much busted. Some people have claimed setting it through their Nvidia control panel externally fixes these issues

So, is this the official word? From my testing, the stuttering, crashing and screen chopping do seem to be related to the amount of AA I'm using. If I play with 2xMSAA in game, I get little to no screen chopping/graphical artifacting, but as soon as I enable 8x I get lots of screen chop, artifacts, and very bad stuttering.
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You must be using crossfire? That is weird as hell though. PostFX is perfectly fine for me, but MSAA gives me the troll face. How does MSAA kill just one card and postfx doesn't, but postfx kills 2 cards and MSAA doesn't? confused.gif You should be killing this game with 2 7970's even with postfx maxed. Maybe 12.11 drivers is making postfx the killer for you and 12.10 is making msaa the killer for me lol
the FX kills my single 7970 as well as dual, but only when I look into the sunlight near the doctors house on the top of his hill.

Go here with fx on ultra! leave msaa off.
You will see what I mean.
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I can prove on my end that msaa is not an issue at all, but post fx is the massive killer. I go from 100fps to 28 in some areas with post fx set from medium to high. When I leave post fx on medium and set msaa to 8, the average 100 fps does down to about 95. Post fx is massivly killing my system by a huge amount. A seriously huge amount! msaa on the other hand does not seem to affect my fps by more than 5fps decrease.

Do you just not like the look with PostFX off? Seems like that would be a good option for you.
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So, is this the official word? From my testing, the stuttering, crashing and screen chopping do seem to be related to the amount of AA I'm using. If I play with 2xMSAA in game, I get little to no screen chopping/graphical artifacting, but as soon as I enable 8x I get lots of screen chop, artifacts, and very bad stuttering.

Maybe that's what's been causing my game to crash to desktop all the freaking time is the MSAA? I know it's a FPS killer for me, so maybe that's whats up with all the crashing. I doubt I'll force anything through CCC because my game is working perfectly fine and still looks amazing with MSAA off.
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the FX kills my single 7970 as well as dual, but only when I look into the sunlight near the doctors house on the top of his hill.
Go here with fx on ultra! leave msaa off.
You will see what I mean.

So you're saying FX only kills your FPS on your 7970's just in that one area? That's weird. Why just that area and not everywhere else in the game?
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Do you just not like the look with PostFX off? Seems like that would be a good option for you.
Hello, yeah the fps is fine when I turn FX down or off, but the game looks really bad without it in terms of extreme aliasing on structures mostly. I tried during FX down and injecting FXAA but it made things worse for some reason. MSAA does not seem to touch the edges either except FX.
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Hello, yeah the fps is fine when I turn FX down or off, but the game looks really bad without it in terms of extreme aliasing on structures mostly. I tried during FX down and injecting FXAA but it made things worse for some reason. MSAA does not seem to touch the edges either except FX.

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IDk people msaa isn't broken for me it is postfx that is. rolleyes.gif
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I can prove on my end that msaa is not an issue at all, but post fx is the massive killer. I go from 100fps to 28 in some areas with post fx set from medium to high. When I leave post fx on medium and set msaa to 8, the average 100 fps does down to about 95. Post fx is massivly killing my system by a huge amount. A seriously huge amount! msaa on the other hand does not seem to affect my fps by more than 5fps decrease.

Yea I agree, maybe msaa is so broken that it does nothing at all? I do get 15 fps less going from 2x to 4x though so it must be doing something... idk...
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