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post #1081 of 1920
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Originally Posted by _Nikhil View Post

Aren't you supposed to use HBAO with nvidia ?

From my understanding it is made for AMD but can by run by Nvidia.

It looks best anyway.
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Originally Posted by bind777 View Post

From my understanding it is made for AMD but can by run by Nvidia.
It looks best anyway.

HDAO = AMD
HBAO = NV
SSAO = NV
But you can run any on either.
HBAO looks slightly better and it used for a better overall look.
SSAO, if coded correctly looks good on foreground objects and has low fps comsumption.
HDAO, can be better looking on distant objects and detail which is better for large areas.
Edited by BradleyW - 12/11/12 at 2:55pm
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This just compares HDAO on Nvidia and AMD. They look pretty similar, Nvidia does look a little over saturated (merely a control panel preference)

I tried HBAO on my AMD setup and it looked gross, like SSAO did. The shadows were overly pronounced with both, like a child outlines art with a black sharpie. That, and finer shadows became extremely fuzzy. I'm not sure if performance was any different, but losing HDAO was NOT WORTH IT


Here's another example



Regardless, I couldn't play this game in DX9
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Originally Posted by BradleyW View Post

HDAO = AMD
HBAO = NV
SSAO = NV
But you can run any on either.
HBAO looks slightly better and it used for a better overall look.
SSAO, if coded correctly looks good on foreground objects and has low fps comsumption.
HDAO, can be better looking on distant objects and detail which is better for large areas.

Good to know, thanks.

Any ideas on my random frame drops? I think it may be because of the SLI bit but I checked them last night and I couldn't find the ones mentioned. Perhaps I was looking at the wrong ones posted. My second card was installed after a wipe of all driver versions and multiple reboots so it was a fresh copy of 310.70. I am also running DX11.
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Alright man thanks for testing. I gotta try 12.10 and see if it helps. Are you in DX11 yeah? Have you tried the d3d11.exe in the FC3 folder? My fps is extremely low when using that .exe.
Rep for your help.

No i haven't ran the d3d11.exe. I just have dx11 set in the game settings. But i doubt that has anything to do with it.
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You do realize that if you aren't running from the FarCry3_d3d11.exe then you probably aren't running in DX11 mode? Just having DX11 mode set in the settings screen doesn't mean anything - you can run the DX9 executable and have that set to DX11 and it'll still be DX9 in-game. Which might explain why you don't see any benefit from having MSAA enabled.

That doesn't make sense though. If you wasn't in dx11 mode you wouldn't even be able to choose msaa at all it goes blank if you switch from dx11 in the game settings. But if you choose dx11 in the game settings you're suppose to restart for it to take affect once you launch it again. But i can tell a difference with MSAA in game but I'm not using it because I'm on 12.10 drivers and it drops my frame rate in half. Just using MSAA on 2 i lost 30 FPS and stuck dead on 29 FPS it wont even go past that. The newest drivers are suppose to improve msaa but i haven't tested them yet.
    
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No i haven't ran the d3d11.exe. I just have dx11 set in the game settings. But i doubt that has anything to do with it.
That doesn't make sense though. If you wasn't in dx11 mode you wouldn't even be able to choose msaa at all it goes blank if you switch from dx11 in the game settings. But if you choose dx11 in the game settings you're suppose to restart for it to take affect once you launch it again. But i can tell a difference with MSAA in game but I'm not using it because I'm on 12.10 drivers and it drops my frame rate in half. Just using MSAA on 2 i lost 30 FPS and stuck dead on 29 FPS it wont even go past that. The newest drivers are suppose to improve msaa but i haven't tested them yet.

The game doesn't force a restart though, and if you start the game from the DX9 executable DX11 will still be set in the options even though the game is in DX9 mode. I've forced DX11 through the flag in the .xml file, then write-protected the file and launched the game from the DX9 executable and it was still in DX9 mode. I have no idea why they have 2 executables though.

Just try running the DX11 executable and see what happens. Maybe it's a weird glitch, but it is completely reproducible for me. Fraps is also a giveaway, because it shows a blue counter in DX11 and a yellow counter in DX9.
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The game doesn't force a restart though, and if you start the game from the DX9 executable DX11 will still be set in the options even though the game is in DX9 mode. I've forced DX11 through the flag in the .xml file, then write-protected the file and launched the game from the DX9 executable and it was still in DX9 mode. I have no idea why they have 2 executables though.
Just try running the DX11 executable and see what happens. Maybe it's a weird glitch, but it is completely reproducible for me. Fraps is also a giveaway, because it shows a blue counter in DX11 and a yellow counter in DX9.

You can see in my pictures that i uploaded with msi afterburner that my game is in DX11 mode. But I'll try running the exe and see what happens.

EDIT: I launched it using dx11.exe and its the same thing. Even says D3D11 mode as before.
Edited by Rabbs - 12/11/12 at 3:55pm
    
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Wouldnt task manager let you see what your running ( farcry3.exe or farcry3d11)
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You can see in my pictures that i uploaded with msi afterburner that my game is in DX11 mode. But I'll try running the exe and see what happens.
EDIT: I launched it using dx11.exe and its the same thing. Even says D3D11 mode as before.

You're right - I missed that.
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Wouldnt task manager let you see what your running ( farcry3.exe or farcry3d11)

Yep. Plus when my game was crashing to desktop i know for a fact it was running in DX11. But haven't crash in a while yet prob cause of msaa, and this is an old crash log. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Source
Far Cry 3

Summary
Stopped working

Date
‎12/‎10/‎2012 11:28 AM

Status
Report sent

Description
Faulting Application Path: D:\FarCry 3\bin\farcry3_d3d11.exe

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: farcry3_d3d11.exe
Application Version: 0.1.0.1
Application Timestamp: 50ba42e8
Fault Module Name: FC3_d3d11.dll
Fault Module Version: 0.1.0.1
Fault Module Timestamp: 50ba42ac
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 01129bf3
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 0a9e
Additional Information 2: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789
Additional Information 3: 0a9e
Additional Information 4: 0a9e372d3b4ad19135b953a78882e789

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Phantek 120mm 1300RPM  120mm Black fan grill  Phantek 120mm 1300RPM Bitfenix 3-Pin to 3x 3-Pin Y Cable Splitter red 
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Phantek 120mm 1300RPM  Phantek 120mm 1300RPM  120mm Black fan grill  120mm Black fan grill 
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Koolance QDC Extreme Flow No-Spill, Male ID:1/2...  120mm Black fan grill  120mm Black fan grill  120mm Black fan grill 
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120mm Black fan grill  120mm Black fan grill  Phantek 120mm 1300RPM  BitFenix Alchemy Connect™ 30 LED Light Strip Red 
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Bitfenix 3-Pin to 3x 3-Pin Y Cable Splitter red Bitfenix 3-Pin to 3x 3-Pin Y Cable Splitter red ModRight FilterRight Square Design 120mm ModRight FilterRight Square Design 120mm 
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