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Poll Results: After recent driver updates and patches are you satisfied with performance given the visuals?

 
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post #1181 of 1920
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Can you show proof of this? Just wondering... cause I am building a PC for my sister and I'll buy myself a new mobo and give her my current one so I can do this. Won't cost me more than a few bucks. So yea. thumb.gif

I don't have any proof because I did not take any screenshots. It is up to you if you believe me or not. My testing shown a double in frame rates when jumping from PCI-E 3.0 x8 to x16.

These are the settings I used:
DX9
FOV 90
All high, Post FX Very High

This is why I got no fps increase with CF, because 2 7970's at x8 is the same as 1 7970 at x16 only when the x8 is choking the GPU's. Do you see?
But no other games show full utilization of x16 pci-e 3.0, not even close, just FC3 did!

Edit: Look, my fps doubled from going x8 to x16. That's all I can tell you mate. So 2 7970's make my lanes at x8 which gave me half the fps of a 7970 and in crossfire it gives me the same fps as what the single 7970 would score at full 3.0 x16. Of course people will not believe me because everyone says this is not possible, but try it for yourself right now. Pick a spot in the game and check the fps. remove card 2 and retest. You will see double the fps from x8 to 16x on the single card. Don't use cf during the test.
Edited by BradleyW - 12/16/12 at 4:21pm
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Glad you got it figured out thumb.gif
    
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am I the only one playing this game with zero issues? lol
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Seems the 7970 users has problems with the game, like stutters and so forth and major drops?

The starting village during night, the one with all the lights, my lowest fps was 45.
And Ive had no stuttering of any sort. Nor do I play with Vsync, note, Vsync + low fps = stutter and smudgey mousemovements.
post #1185 of 1920
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I don't have any proof because I did not take any screenshots. It is up to you if you believe me or not. My testing shown a double in frame rates when jumping from PCI-E 3.0 x8 to x16.
These are the settings I used:
DX9
FOV 90
All high, Post FX Very High
This is why I got no fps increase with CF, because 2 7970's at x8 is the same as 1 7970 at x16 only when the x8 is choking the GPU's. Do you see?
But no other games show full utilization of x16 pci-e 3.0, not even close, just FC3 did!
Edit: Look, my fps doubled from going x8 to x16. That's all I can tell you mate. So 2 7970's make my lanes at x8 which gave me half the fps of a 7970 and in crossfire it gives me the same fps as what the single 7970 would score at full 3.0 x16. Of course people will not believe me because everyone says this is not possible, but try it for yourself right now. Pick a spot in the game and check the fps. remove card 2 and retest.

There may be issues where removing a card improved your performance, but it is not because the PCIe speed doubled. Do you honestly think that a single card at PCIe x16 is going to be twice as fast as two cards at PCIe x8 just because the single card is at x16? Not possible.
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Glad you got it figured out thumb.gif

Thanks bro! I could not believe pci-e 3.0 x8 is too slow for this game when using higher FX.
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There may be issues where removing a card improved your performance, but it is not because the PCIe speed doubled. Do you honestly think that a single card at PCIe x16 is going to be twice as fast as two cards at PCIe x8 just because the single card is at x16? Not possible.

I did not say that, or at least I did not mean to say that. What I mean is the 2 7970's at x8 x8 perform the same as 1 7970 at x16 (Only in farcry 3) because the post FX makes full use of the bandwidth. My testing shown this. I don't care if people believe me or not, all I know is that I've figured out the issue and I can now enjoy FC3 better. wink.gif

In farcry 3 on my system, 2 7970's at x8 give the same fps as a single 7970 at x16. Afterall, it is the same amout of bandwidth if the x8 really is choking the cards in this game, only when the Post FX is rampted up. Of cource a card at x16 cannot be twice as fast as 2 cards at x8 x8. That is just silly smile.gif
Edited by BradleyW - 12/16/12 at 4:29pm
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Why do you people turn off Post FX? I dont need to.
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Why do you people turn off Post FX? I dont need to.

Because you have a GTX 680 held by a full x16 pci-e 3.0 slot. I am at x8 therefore the fps is half of everyone else on average, until I moved to x16 as well, which gives me the save performance as every other 7970 user. The GTX 680 also does slightly better than the 7970 GHz in this game anyway.

I urge people to test the correllation between bandwidth and fps using FC3. The game is bandwidth hungry. No wonder x79 users get double the fps in CF compared to me as I am at x8 x8. All other applications seem fine however. Post FX loves bandwidth by the looks of it. If you think it is a load of crap, test for yourself. You will be suprised.
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I did not say that, or at least I did not mean to say that. What I mean is the 2 7970's at x8 x8 perform the same as 1 7970 at x16 (Only in farcry 3) because the post FX makes full use of the bandwidth. My testing shown this. I don't care if people believe me or not, all I know is that I've figured out the issue and I can now enjoy FC3 better. wink.gif
In farcry 3 on my system, 2 7970's at x8 give the same fps as a single 7970 at x16. Afterall, it is the same amout of bandwidth if the x8 really is choking the cards in this game, only when the Post FX is rampted up. Of cource a card at x16 cannot be twice as fast as 2 cards at x8 x8. That is just silly smile.gif

PCIe x8 does not choke the bandwidth on your cards. You have an issue with your mobo or Crossfire. There is virtually no performance difference between PCIe x8 and PCIe x16. Even at x4, there is only a 10-12% performance loss.
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