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If I could do mine over again I'd probably go with a swift apogee drive 2 cpu block , 120 rad, 240 rad, and then a microres mounted near the Ram on the fronf of the housing. I think this makes for the cleanest top side loop.

If you want to use a bay reservoir then I'd consider also adding in a small dual 80mm rad on the bottom floor because the case is sort of radiator limited.

Wouldn't the 120 and 240 be sufficient to do the job..? The area for the 80mm fans is blocked off as I installed my optical drive there, to have the space for the bay res. As for the apogee drive, I don't think that would really work for me as I need to cool 5-6 blocks right? smile.gif
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post #2632 of 10491
You're asking a lot of what is only 360 worth of rad space to cool the nb, sb, cpu, ram, and gpu. I know that with my 240 on my two 560ti's they seem to be just fine on the single 240, but my H80 modded with a reservoir can struggle at times with my oc'ed FX-8350.

Dont' get me wrong I like this case, but if you have the overclocking / watercooling bug this case doesn't provide the most room for radiators. It's truly a lan box/ test bench. A lot of people are buying this because it's "different", but not necessarily good for what they're trying to accomplish with their rigs. Do you really need the optical drive permanently installed? The extra rad space may help and for you the Apogee Drive II may not be the best option with all those blocks, but it's going to be hard to wedge a pump in the basement that will flow enough with the optical drive there. I've currently got my pump right where your drive is.
post #2633 of 10491
Thanks for your input Mavisky, really appreciate it.

The bay/res that I have in mind houses 2 d5 pumps that can run in series, so as the 2 bays combine both the reservoir and 2 pumps, that just leaves the issue of having enough rads for the job. Since you think the RX120 will not provide enough for the cpu, nb/sb & ram, would it help if I changed the loop? Maybe put the cpu with 1 graphics card on the RX120, opting for perhaps a larger rad (I believe an RS360 would fit as well, right?) so put the 2 remaining graphics cards, the nb/sb and ram in an loop with an RS360? Or would that still be asking too much of the radiators..?

***edit***

Or maybe I'm thinking too complicated, what if the RX120 with the cpu would be combined with either the nb/sb or the ram, and whichever goes out of the loop joins the other loop, would that work? smile.gif
Edited by Hal NL - 5/20/13 at 9:02am
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post #2634 of 10491
Ignore me problem solved. Brute force won in the end.
Edited by Buxty - 5/20/13 at 9:52am
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post #2635 of 10491
Unless you're really really overclocking the ram it should get enough airflow from the fans on the front radiator to keep it cool. The case is awfully small for two loops.

If i were you i'd get that bay res you're looking at and then do the following.

One 120mm rad on the rear housing - i mounted one of my push/pull fans to the outside of the case to give me more room internally.
One 360mm rad modded to fit into the front housing. Someone already did this a few pages back and it just barely fits. Not sure that you're going to do about outside fans unless you swiss cheese the front housing.

With this setup you'd be able to cover the cpu, gpu, nb, sb, ram, and probably 2 graphics cards. I really think you're in the wrong case if your goal is a heavily water cooled rig with 3 gpu's. There's just not enough space for everything you want and not enough ways to keep everything cool. If I added any more parts to my rig I can guarantee you that I'd be selling this case in a heartbeat for a full-sized tower capable of holding an e-atx mobo and multiple 360 rads.
post #2636 of 10491
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Houston we have a problem...

I just got my new EVGA GTX660 and it will not line up with the slots on the back of the case its as if the motherboard isnt fitted correctly but it is! Putting it in the nearest PCI slot to the cpu is out of the question as the dvi ports will hit the slot separator straight on. In the second its acceptable but as soon as i go to put a retaining screw in it tilts making it visably wrong. Any ideas?

PIctures?

That board is almost identical in layout to my Asus M5A99FX Pro R.20 and I have a 560 in my top slot and it all lines up perfectly for me. Is it possible that you could loosen the screws on the mobo about 1 turn, adjust it to fit the opening and then re-tighten the screws down?
post #2637 of 10491
Thanks Mavisky!

The 3rd gpu isn't exactly necessary - it's more of a "if it would fit it'd be great". What you suggest, would you put that on 1 loop or 2? As far as I can visualize, there should be enough space for a 2 loop system. I bought this case not so much with the thought in mind that I "need to cram it full with wc", more so because I dig the look of the case. It's working as it is right now, just trying to look into what else I can do with it. Anything that will work, great! My goal is not so much to push it to great oc results, it's more to create a quiet, nice looking system.

About the 360mm radiator...would it be a no-go if I would put 2 12mm fans on their original spot outside the case as push, and place 3 12mm fans inside the case as pull? The fans would not align with each other, but as the air gets pushed through the fins, I'm thinking that it shouldn't hurt the performance much that the fans aren't aligned? Only the 6mm on both sides of the rad get cooled a bit less as they are only pulling.
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post #2638 of 10491
As far as necessary... why do you want to cool your NB, SB and the RAM? Seems highly unnecessary to me...

if the 120 and 240 are in one loop, you can cool your CPU and GPUs fine... I just haven't seen the point of RAM and mobo watercooling for anything other than "aesthetics"... The Samsung wonder ram doesn't even have a heatsink and is cooled perfectly fine by chassis fans.
post #2639 of 10491
That would indeed be mostly for aesthetics. I already have a nb waterblock laying around for this motherboard, so as I thought of making a custom loop, it seemed only logical to include that in the loop as well. Then I noticed that I could get my hands on a block that would cool both nb and sb, so why not use that. Oh and while I'm at it, might as well replace the airflow cooler on my ram as well. And thus the aesthetic thought was born.

My cpu and gpu are not aesthetic though, as I am mainly doing this wc setup to bring the noise down to as low as possible. So you're suggesting one loop, would I be correct to assume the following:

bay/res > 240 > cpu > 120 > gpu x2/3 > bay/res

One of my questions of earlier today remains: as I have about 70mm space for the 240 radiator, would an RX240 with push setup be better, or an RS240 in push/pull? Or perhaps, as those would fit as well, an EX240/AX240 in push/pull? The fans on both radiators will be the only fans I plan on installing, so with the 120 as push/pull as exhaust, which of the above would be best to recommend..? I plan on using some ap-15s to keep the radiators cool.

Thanks everyone for all the advice I've gotten so far! smile.gif
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post #2640 of 10491
If you get some flat top screws or even the rubber pull through mounts you may be able to mount the exterior 120 fans to the front of the case although that would limit you to only attaching the radiator to the front of the case via the two screws on each end. If so I'd cut a small bracket out of aluminum to help spread the load a little more across the front of the case especially since you'll be cutting into it.

I don't see the need to run 2 loops instead of one. I've got two loops only because I started with a single modded H80 with this case before watercooling my GPU's. I'd have to re-route all my lines as well as replace my cpu block and 120 rad to convert it to a single loop and with a kid on the way the wife keeps a close eye on any purchases I make.
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