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Yeah im considering a custom loop too...ill probably get it now that im in the US...much cheaper that getting it from the UK....any starting tips/guides? i know that there are some start up kits are those any good?
Start up kits are ok as long as they are expandable...I recommend just getting what you want the first time....I researched on OCN for a few days before deciding what I wanted and still managed to pick terrible Fluid dye.....Learned the hard way just to stick with plain Distilled water and UV reactive tubing or if you really want dye just stick with Mayhems.....I ordered all of my Water cooling pieces from here---> www.performance-pcs.com Fast shipping and great prices.

You doing CPU+GPU+NB+SB or just CPU?
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Start up kits are ok as long as they are expandable...I recommend just getting what you want the first time....I researched on OCN for a few days before deciding what I wanted and still managed to pick terrible Fluid dye.....Learned the hard way just to stick with plain Distilled water and UV reactive tubing or if you really want dye just stick with Mayhems.....I ordered all of my Water cooling pieces from here---> www.performance-pcs.com Fast shipping and great prices.

You doing CPU+GPU+NB+SB or just CPU?


All start up kits are basically pieced components that you can buy individually for a custom loop.


Closed loop kits are non expandable unless you mod it and break your warranty at the same time.


That's why I recommend starter kits for new water coolers. Everything is there to get going and its still custom thus (as you pointed out) expandable to add a gpu or more.


Don't use dyes and special liquids for the first time imho. Go to Walmart (or a local pharmacy) and buy a gallon of distilled for $0.82. Add a silver strip or biocide if you're paranoid. I've been running without a biocide for a year now and no growth.


once you feel comfortable, then learn a bit more and start expanding your setup (ie more blocks, different loop setup, dyes, etc.).


I've been water cooling for a bit now and I'm on my ~15th loop so I have some experience. Hit me up if you guys have any questions smile.gif
Edited by wermad - 5/30/13 at 7:45pm
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All start up kits are basically pieced components that you can buy individually for a custom loop.


Closed loop kits are non expandable unless you mod it and break your warranty at the same time.


That's why I recommend starter kits for new water coolers. Everything is there to get going and its still custom thus (as you pointed out) expandable to add a gpu or more.


Don't use dyes and special liquids for the first time imho. Go to Walmart (or a local pharmacy) and buy a gallon of distilled for $0.82. Add a silver strip or biocide if you're paranoid. I've been running without a biocide for a year now and no growth.


once you feel comfortable, then learn a bit more and start expanding your setup (ie more blocks, different loop setup, dyes, etc.).


I've been water cooling for a bit now and I'm on my ~15th loop so I have some experience. Hit me up if you guys have any questions smile.gif

Yeah I had Primochill ICE with intensifier dye......Looked great for about two weeks then it all disappeared....Opened My CPU water block and it was Sludged up on the back side of the block and in the fins of the block....Flushed my system, used DIstilled water with some PT NUKE works great and then switched to Mayhems Pastel Dye concentrates......Stuff is awesome!

With me it was buy a starter kit..realize it isnt what I want and buy separate components anyways or just buy the components I want...So I bought what I wanted and now I want better......Oh the life of PC building *sigh*

My new case Im building has separate rads and loops in it and is going to be AMAZING!!!!!! But I cant give away any sneak peaks yet ninja.gif

Wermad- Just out of curiosity, who's your favorite manufacturer?

CPU Blocks-
GPU blocks-
Radiators-
Fittings-
Tubing-

Or do you just go with what tickles your fancy at the time?

FYI heres a decent water cooling Starter kit-http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=34959
Im sure you can find cheaper kits but this is what I looked at then decided I wanted different tubing...Then different Radiator...then different Water block so I said screw it and built my own custom loop....
Edited by Dgeorge1617 - 5/30/13 at 8:01pm
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Wermad- Just out of curiosity, who's your favorite manufacturer?

CPU Blocks-
GPU blocks-
Radiators-
Fittings-
Tubing-

Or do you just go with what tickles your fancy at the time?

FYI heres a decent water cooling Starter kit-http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=34959
Im sure you can find cheaper kits but this is what I looked at then decided I wanted different tubing...Then different Radiator...then different Water block so I said screw it and built my own custom loop....


They're all pretty good and fall very close in terms of performance. if you stick with the big brands, you'll have no trouble. The cpu block arena is where you see some blocks pull ahead but not by much. I'm running a DD which i got for cheap during their liquidation. Works great and I like the mounting system. Not the best quality (nickel is flaking inside and stained fairly quick) but its working just great. Ultimately, it comes down to looks for the blocks and what accessories they may offer (ie gpu bridge/links etc.).

Radiators, well, mostly all will be ok. Just avoid adding an aluminum one in a loop where you have copper/brass. There's more science to this mal interaction that I don't quite grasp but the rule of thumb is avoid it. I've used several different brands and they all perform quite well. Ultimately, you just need to factor how much rad you need (or desire tongue.gif) and what fans will be used. Stick w/ the big brands you'll be fine.


Fittings: well, the more expensive the better the quaility. So BP usually gets the nod. If you can't spend much, Phobya makes really good fittings for a great price. They don't shine as the others but the work great. If you want near BP quality but not the price, check out Enzotech, Alphacool (my fave), or Koolance. Personally, after trying xspc comp fittings, i would skip them or just stick w/ barbs. They're not that great. Be careful with the compression fittings and tubes as some may be a super tight squeeze.

Right now there's a huge controversy on tube. A lot of it recently just started plasticize (whitish grayish film build up, a chemical reaction). It started last year as it was very uncommon before that but all of a sudden everyone is having it. After a lot of trial and error, especially with clear to show of my Mayhems Emerald Green, I gave up. Ironically, the cheap Primochill LRT that was plasticizing for everyone (including myself) ended up not turning. I guess, since I bought a clearance roll from a not so desired color it may have been a good batch from early 2012. In the end, Primochill is offering "Advance" LRT which is designed not to plasticize and its priced accordingly with other brands. This is my recommended tube option as others, even the expensive and "plasticize free" brands is a crap-shoot.
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They're all pretty good and fall very close in terms of performance. if you stick with the big brands, you'll have no trouble. The cpu block arena is where you see some blocks pull ahead but not by much. I'm running a DD which i got for cheap during their liquidation. Works great and I like the mounting system. Not the best quality (nickel is flaking inside and stained fairly quick) but its working just great. Ultimately, it comes down to looks for the blocks and what accessories they may offer (ie gpu bridge/links etc.).

Radiators, well, mostly all will be ok. Just avoid adding an aluminum one in a loop where you have copper/brass. There's more science to this mal interaction that I don't quite grasp but the rule of thumb is avoid it. I've used several different brands and they all perform quite well. Ultimately, you just need to factor how much rad you need (or desire tongue.gif) and what fans will be used. Stick w/ the big brands you'll be fine.


Fittings: well, the more expensive the better the quaility. So BP usually gets the nod. If you can't spend much, Phobya makes really good fittings for a great price. They don't shine as the others but the work great. If you want near BP quality but not the price, check out Enzotech, Alphacool (my fave), or Koolance. Personally, after trying xspc comp fittings, i would skip them or just stick w/ barbs. They're not that great. Be careful with the compression fittings and tubes as some may be a super tight squeeze.

Right now there's a huge controversy on tube. A lot of it recently just started plasticize (whitish grayish film build up, a chemical reaction). It started last year as it was very uncommon before that but all of a sudden everyone is having it. After a lot of trial and error, especially with clear to show of my Mayhems Emerald Green, I gave up. Ironically, the cheap Primochill LRT that was plasticizing for everyone (including myself) ended up not turning. I guess, since I bought a clearance roll from a not so desired color it may have been a good batch from early 2012. In the end, Primochill is offering "Advance" LRT which is designed not to plasticize and its priced accordingly with other brands. This is my recommended tube option as others, even the expensive and "plasticize free" brands is a crap-shoot.
Yeah my XB has primochill advance lrt tubing ek fittings alpha cool rads, koolance CPU block, bits power res and swiftech mcp355 pump....ek GPU blocks are on the way
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You guys are talking about moving to water while I reluctantly uninstall my Corsair H80 and re install my Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 Pro frown.gif
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phew..
CM almost pissed me off today..
I got a package this morning with what SHOULD be my HAF XB top window..

":S That does not look like my window.. whats going on here!"
turns out that CM uses the box from "CM 690 side panel" for other stuff too, because my HAF XB window top was inside ^^ weee. Pics later today
 
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phew..
CM almost pissed me off today..
I got a package this morning with what SHOULD be my HAF XB top window..

":S That does not look like my window.. whats going on here!"
turns out that CM uses the box from "CM 690 side panel" for other stuff too, because my HAF XB window top was inside ^^ weee. Pics later today

I had the exact same thing with mine i was like...wait a minute! All is well though good job CM for cost cutting thumb.gif
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I mean is there a good guide or way to start out with custom loop WC? Just because i was thinking of changing CPU cooling and if i was to do GPU aswell then it doesn't seem worth laying out over 140GBP for air coolers if a loop will do better for less. Also whats the reliability like, i know it could be partly down the user skill at making it but is it generally safe to have gallons flowing in tubes over expensive equipment? tongue.gif
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phew..
CM almost pissed me off today..
I got a package this morning with what SHOULD be my HAF XB top window..

":S That does not look like my window.. whats going on here!"
turns out that CM uses the box from "CM 690 side panel" for other stuff too, because my HAF XB window top was inside ^^ weee. Pics later today

Mine came in a CM690 case box. Lol
 
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