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... In my region - Poland there is no window version to buy frown.gif I haven't found any shop with this version...

There are only JetFlo 120, I haven't found 140mm JetFlo. I would like to have 2x140mm fans in the front of the case.

I believe the CMStore EU version would ship to Poland, if not you may Google this and see if you can find a better link.
http://www.cmstore.eu/cases/haf/haf-xb/haf-xb-toppanels/

The Jetflo's are limited to 120 yes. But you have to run a 120 on the rear as exhaust. I mentioned Cougars because they are one of the most powerful 140s with a good quality review.
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Dear Friends

Thank you for your fast replies.


Have you got any official statement (source URL), that confirms that tabs are fine with 2x140mm mounted from outside of the case? So I don't need 200mm fan at all? In my region - Poland there is no window version to buy frown.gif I haven't found any shop with this version. So if I decide to buy 200mm fan, there is only one fan - Cooler Master MegaFlow 200 Silent Fan, which will fit the holes in the top mesh like liamstears said below? Is the heat sink with attached fan of my CPU Cooler will not come off enough to interfere with the 200mm fan on top of the case?

Thank you for your reply liamstears, it helps me a lot. May you tell me what are dimensions of you PSU Silent Pro M2?

So how long should be PSU, to exactly cover whe cut out in case for PSU fan? 140, 150, 160, 170? I know that 180mm lenght PSU is over the cut out whole for PSU fan.

EDIT


There are only JetFlo 120, I haven't found 140mm JetFlo. I would like to have 2x140mm fans in the front of the case.

Best regards.

Sincerely

Welcome to OCN! and happy to hear we will soon have a new member to our XB family smile.gif

I dont think there are any official statement on the 140mm change.. but we have a guy working for CM in this thread who took our "complaints" and fixed them in the EVO version.. We also have a few EVO owners who has confirmed that the 140's can now be fitted without modding.

As for the 200mm, no, you dont need it, and as said above, it wont give you much of a difference, it may actually harm your airflow. but it is 25mm thick and will be housed entirely within the "hump" of the top panel, and therefore the top panel would hit the CPU cooler before the fan would.. plenty of space.
You can order the top window from CMs own site, or make your own top window (witch will look a LOT better than the CM one)



About the PSU, I think that all PSUs has the fan at the same location, the variable length of the PSU only changes how fare in the PSU will go. so any PSU will work and have the fan placed over the cutout as it should. but dont go too long! Corsair AX1200i (200mm) is a REALLY snug fit and makes cable routing hard.. 180 should be fine though.

*Edit
By CPU cooler you mean the LQ315 right? if you are talking about a standard air cooler, the top fan may indeed interfear with some tall coolers, but not a 120mm radiator + fans.
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Dear Friends

First of all, I would like to say hello to everybody, it's my first post here on Overclock.net.

I am going to buy case Cooler Master HAF XB EVO version, but I have got some questions, which I hope somebody will answer - thank you in advance.

My system specification:
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MOBO ASROCK FATAL1TY H87 PERFORMANCE FATAL1TY H87 PERFORMANCE
CPU INTEL CORE I5-4670K BX80646I54670K
CPU COOLING ZALMAN LQ315 LQ315
RAM CORSAIR VENGEANCE 8GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
GPU MSI GEFORCE GTX 770 N770 TF 2GD5/OC
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HDD WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 1TB WD10EZEX
CASE* COOLER MASTER HAF XB EVO RC-902XB-KKN2
KEYBOARD LOGITECH MK520 920-002613

*I am going to buy, but first I need to have some answers.


Thank you once more.

Best regards.

Sincerely


welcome to OCN and the club of HAF XB. if you PM the thread starter, he will add you to the first post as a member of the club. unfortunately, there are no prizes for being a member except you get to chat with all the wonderful people in this thread and all others.

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1. I would like to change 2x120mm XtraFlo fans in the front to 2x140mm, but I have heard that I will not able to, when mounting them from the outside of the case. I need to mount them from inside, is it correct? -- I am almost sure that they fixed the issue with the front panel hitting the 140 fans, so no worries here. I have two 140's in the front and they are on the "outside" of the framing structure. I own the V1 and I had to clip the tabs in the front to get it to fit, but again, they fixed what was causing this issue for all of us.

2. I assume that 2x140mm fans will be mounted in the front panel from inside of the case. In such scenario, will my GPU not touch/come up to those 2x140mm fans? My GPU dimensions are 260x126x38 mm (10.25 inches length). --- your gpu will be fine. I have a gtx670ftw(680 pcb) and a 35mm rad and 25mm fans on the inside front section and I still have abount 20mm left for wires.

3. I would like to mount 1x200mm fan in the top of the case. May you recommend a particular fan 1x200mm for the top of the case? --- I am not to sure about this. maybe best if someone else helps with this question. however, I installed the window in the top of mine and it was super easy. there have been some that have got the temp in their case to drop a couple of degrees with the fan installed up top, but I like the look of the window much better and I feel front to back air flow is just fine.

4. My CPU Cooler is Zalman LQ315, when I will mount radiator with 1x120mm fan at the rear of the case (instead of preinstalled 1x120mm rear fan), will 1x200mm top fan not touch/come up to my CPU Cooler? --see above answer

5. My PSU is Corsair CS550M with dimension 150x86x140 mm (lenght), when mounted in case with this official bracket, will it cover exactly the hole cut out (in case) for the power supply fan or should I change it for other lenght? --- I am willing to bet that most psu's won't match up exactly on the hole for the fan. I am using a 1200 watt psu and I think that only 1/2 of the fan is in the hole for the fan. as long as it can get air in, it should be fine. no need for a new psu IMO.
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Well got all my gear in this case. Really like the horizontal layout. Currently trying to figure out where to put the case though. More than likely will end up on the floor. Here are some pictures to see how crammed I got it. Rad is push/pull as well.


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Looks great. Thanx for the pics :thumb:

    
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Dear Friends

Thank you for your fast replies.


Have you got any official statement (source URL), that confirms that tabs are fine with 2x140mm mounted from outside of the case? So I don't need 200mm fan at all? In my region - Poland there is no window version to buy frown.gif I haven't found any shop with this version. So if I decide to buy 200mm fan, there is only one fan - Cooler Master MegaFlow 200 Silent Fan, which will fit the holes in the top mesh like liamstears said below? Is the heat sink with attached fan of my CPU Cooler will not come off enough to interfere with the 200mm fan on top of the case?

Thank you for your reply liamstears, it helps me a lot. May you tell me what are dimensions of you PSU Silent Pro M2?

So how long should be PSU, to exactly cover whe cut out in case for PSU fan? 140, 150, 160, 170? I know that 180mm lenght PSU is over the cut out whole for PSU fan.

EDIT


There are only JetFlo 120, I haven't found 140mm JetFlo. I would like to have 2x140mm fans in the front of the case.

Best regards.

Sincerely

powitanie Vamet,
a wise choice, the simple answer would be yes to all your questions, but I will give explanation.

1. Yes, there is plenty of clearance to mount 2 x 140mm fans in the front, you can mount them either inside the case or between the front bezel and the case. Where the 120mm fans are mounted. The holes are pre drilled for 120mm and 140mm fans.

2. From the Pci slot to the front of the case is 330mm . There is enogh room in the case to mount a 290x with a corsair H110 and fans in the front. Your little graphics card will go in without touching the sides thumb.gif

3. I've got the coolermaster 200mm fan in mine, fits exactly, throws loads of air into the case. Does the job.

4. According to zalman your rad plus two fans equal 75mm. It will be a tight fit with a 200mm fan, but. Al you need to do is mount the radiator against the back of the case, and mount the 'pull' fan on the outside of the case. Put a nice fan grill on there, it'll look sweet.

5. Yes your PSU will fit and the fan will line up with the hole in the bottom of the case. It's the bigger PSU's like the corsair 1200w that are a bit too big to line up.

The coolermaster haf xb will easily swallow all your hardware without a problem. Have a look at some of the build threads for this case. You'll be surprised how much you can fit in. Mines got a 360mm x 240mm rad and a 280mm rad, and possibly a 240mm rad soon. You won't regret buying this case. I've just bought a second one biggrin.gif
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powitanie Vamet,
a wise choice, the simple answer would be yes to all your questions, but I will give explanation.

1. Yes, there is plenty of clearance to mount 2 x 140mm fans in the front, you can mount them either inside the case or between the front bezel and the case. Where the 120mm fans are mounted. The holes are pre drilled for 120mm and 140mm fans.

2. From the Pci slot to the front of the case is 330mm . There is enogh room in the case to mount a 290x with a corsair H110 and fans in the front. Your little graphics card will go in without touching the sides thumb.gif

3. I've got the coolermaster 200mm fan in mine, fits exactly, throws loads of air into the case. Does the job.

4. According to zalman your rad plus two fans equal 75mm. It will be a tight fit with a 200mm fan, but. Al you need to do is mount the radiator against the back of the case, and mount the 'pull' fan on the outside of the case. Put a nice fan grill on there, it'll look sweet.

5. Yes your PSU will fit and the fan will line up with the hole in the bottom of the case. It's the bigger PSU's like the corsair 1200w that are a bit too big to line up.

The coolermaster haf xb will easily swallow all your hardware without a problem. Have a look at some of the build threads for this case. You'll be surprised how much you can fit in. Mines got a 360mm x 240mm rad and a 280mm rad, and possibly a 240mm rad soon. You won't regret buying this case. I've just bought a second one biggrin.gif

You have the fan blowing down? you must have your case in a dust free environment.. or that would blow in SOO much dust tongue.gif

The 1200w would still line up.. it is just longer in the back, but the fan would still line up with the case cut outs.. wouldnt it?
 
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Dear Friends

 

Thank you very much for your advice and help goes to liamstears, welshy46, vaporizer, GaMbi2004, TLSheff, kpoeticg. I think you really don't realize, how much you have helped me choosing my new case, which will be Cooler Master HAF XB EVO version. I am so happy that Cooler Master has fixed problem with 2x140mm fans mounted from outside of the case. Lots of you advice me, to not mount 1x200mm, so it's done, I will not. My motherboard doesn't allow me to add second GPU, because there is only CF support not SLI. I will only try to OC i5 4670K to 4.0-4.2 with chipset H87, which ASRock H87 Fatal1ty Performace allow to do that. Haswell is a warm CPU, but I think that water cooling Zalman LQ315 will do it's work well.

 

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powitanie Vamet,
a wise choice, the simple answer would be yes to all your questions, but I will give explanation.

1. Yes, there is plenty of clearance to mount 2 x 140mm fans in the front, you can mount them either inside the case or between the front bezel and the case. Where the 120mm fans are mounted. The holes are pre drilled for 120mm and 140mm fans.

2. From the Pci slot to the front of the case is 330mm . There is enogh room in the case to mount a 290x with a corsair H110 and fans in the front. Your little graphics card will go in without touching the sides thumb.gif

3. I've got the coolermaster 200mm fan in mine, fits exactly, throws loads of air into the case. Does the job.

4. According to zalman your rad plus two fans equal 75mm. It will be a tight fit with a 200mm fan, but. Al you need to do is mount the radiator against the back of the case, and mount the 'pull' fan on the outside of the case. Put a nice fan grill on there, it'll look sweet.

5. Yes your PSU will fit and the fan will line up with the hole in the bottom of the case. It's the bigger PSU's like the corsair 1200w that are a bit too big to line up.

The coolermaster haf xb will easily swallow all your hardware without a problem. Have a look at some of the build threads for this case. You'll be surprised how much you can fit in. Mines got a 360mm x 240mm rad and a 280mm rad, and possibly a 240mm rad soon. You won't regret buying this case. I've just bought a second one biggrin.gif

 

 

Thank you once more for your detailed explanation. My Zalman LQ315 comes with only 1x120mm and other one is optional. As far as I know, it will only do 2-3 degrees less with 2x120mm.

 

PS. Thank you for your Polish :) ...if I may advice, please change "powitanie" to "Witam" or "Czesc" (correct spelling in Polish is "Cześć") or "Hej" :)

 

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Welcome to OCN! and happy to hear we will soon have a new member to our XB family smile.gif

I dont think there are any official statement on the 140mm change.. but we have a guy working for CM in this thread who took our "complaints" and fixed them in the EVO version.. We also have a few EVO owners who has confirmed that the 140's can now be fitted without modding.

As for the 200mm, no, you dont need it, and as said above, it wont give you much of a difference, it may actually harm your airflow. but it is 25mm thick and will be housed entirely within the "hump" of the top panel, and therefore the top panel would hit the CPU cooler before the fan would.. plenty of space.
You can order the top window from CMs own site, or make your own top window (witch will look a LOT better than the CM one)



About the PSU, I think that all PSUs has the fan at the same location, the variable length of the PSU only changes how fare in the PSU will go. so any PSU will work and have the fan placed over the cutout as it should. but dont go too long! Corsair AX1200i (200mm) is a REALLY snug fit and makes cable routing hard.. 180 should be fine though.

*Edit
By CPU cooler you mean the LQ315 right? if you are talking about a standard air cooler, the top fan may indeed interfear with some tall coolers, but not a 120mm radiator + fans.

 

 

It's very nice that Cooler Master has fixed problem with 2x140mm. So about the PSU lenght, it's no matter how long it is, and all the PSU will always start the fan hole at the same place? Yes, LQ315 is my CPU Cooler, it's closed water cooling unit.

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I believe the CMStore EU version would ship to Poland, if not you may Google this and see if you can find a better link.
http://www.cmstore.eu/cases/haf/haf-xb/haf-xb-toppanels/

The Jetflo's are limited to 120 yes. But you have to run a 120 on the rear as exhaust. I mentioned Cougars because they are one of the most powerful 140s with a good quality review.

 

 

I will check CMStore EU for window version of HAF XB EVO. Are there any differences, between HAF XB toppanel and HAF XB EVO. In CMStore EU there is HAF XB toppanel, there is no such thing like EVO toppanel. I like Cougars, but once again there is no such fans in Poland, I have checked all the popular shops and without success. Maybe other 140mm? Any advice, I will be glad.

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The actual specs of XB have been advertised as supporting 140's in the front panel since it was originally launched. Like i said, it was a small manufacturing oversight in an otherwise brilliant chassis.

 

I believe that it was fixed by Rev 2 of the XB (when they powered the X-Dock by Sata power instead of Molex). For rev 1, it was just a few plastic tabs in the front panel that had absolutely no structural or aesthetic effect on the case. CM reps have been in this thread a few times to get forum feedback. If you search in here you should find your info. Don't know anywhere else to link you that would specify the change, since it was meant to be a feature of the original release.

 

Also, the 200mm fan may very well conflict with a tower cooler. One more reason to just get a windowed top. I bought my window top separate, coolermaster sells it on their website for like 10 bux. If you can't get the XB with the window included, that's always an option. Either way, you have no need for the top fan

 

 

So what is the newest revision of the HAF XB? How may I check it in the shop before buying the case? Is there any trick to do this? :)

 

Best regards.

 

Sincerely


Edited by VAMET - 2/12/14 at 4:25pm
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The EVO is the newest version =)

 

The XB released like a year (or more) ago with those plastic tabs and the X-Dock powered by Molex. Then they did a refresh where the X-Dock was powered by Sata and supposedbly no more tabs where the 140's go. Then the EVO's the newest version.

 

Also, NP. Glad to help. Always happy to have new members to the club :thumb:

    
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Gambi, positive air pressure in the case helps to stop the dust settling, so does doing the housework wink.gif . With 2x 140mm fans, 1x 200mm, 1x 180mm, and 1x 120mm fan blowing in and 6x 120mm sucking out there's not much chance for the dust to settle. I'm sure I read someone's post that said they had a corsair 1200w PSU and the fan didn't line up with the xb's fan hole ?.

Vamet, apologies. Writing Polish is even harder than pronouncing it. Thankfully your English is better. I can't even spell the places I visited in Poland redface.gif . As for cooling your CPU, you should get a better cooler if you're going to over clock your CPU. Any of the 240mm or 280mm prebuilt coolers will fit in the front of the case. With two sets of fans and room for your graphics card. Up to a radiator thickness of 45mm. I wanted cougar fans for my build, purely because they are orange. Too expensive in the UK, nice looking fans though.
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