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Dear Friends

Thank you very much for your advice and help goes to liamstears, welshy46, vaporizer, GaMbi2004, TLSheff, kpoeticg. I think you really don't realize, how much you have helped me choosing my new case, which will be Cooler Master HAF XB EVO version. I am so happy that Cooler Master has fixed problem with 2x140mm fans mounted from outside of the case. Lots of you advice me, to not mount 1x200mm, so it's done, I will not. My motherboard doesn't allow me to add second GPU, because there is only CF support not SLI. I will only try to OC i5 4670K to 4.0-4.2 with chipset H87, which ASRock H87 Fatal1ty Performace allow to do that. Haswell is a warm CPU, but I think that water cooling Zalman LQ315 will do it's work well.


Thank you once more for your detailed explanation. My Zalman LQ315 comes with only 1x120mm and other one is optional. As far as I know, it will only do 2-3 degrees less with 2x120mm.

PS. Thank you for your Polish smile.gif ...if I may advice, please change "powitanie" to "Witam" or "Czesc" (correct spelling in Polish is "Cześć") or "Hej" smile.gif


It's very nice that Cooler Master has fixed problem with 2x140mm. So about the PSU lenght, it's no matter how long it is, and all the PSU will always start the fan hole at the same place? Yes, LQ315 is my CPU Cooler, it's closed water cooling unit.

I will check CMStore EU for window version of HAF XB EVO. Are there any differences, between HAF XB toppanel and HAF XB EVO. In CMStore EU there is HAF XB toppanel, there is no such thing like EVO toppanel. I like Cougars, but once again there is no such fans in Poland, I have checked all the popular shops and without success. Maybe other 140mm? Any advice, I will be glad.

So what is the newest revision of the HAF XB? How may I check it in the shop before buying the case? Is there any trick to do this? smile.gif

Best regards.

Sincerely

Glad we could help smile.gif
You could always delid the CPU to lower the temps by 20 degrees~ check out the deliddint thread Here
But if your not gonna OC further than 4.0-4.2, you shouldnt have to..
About the PSU fan.. I looked further into it, the long 1200w seams to have the fan a BIT further in.. (I was wrong) but it should still not be a problem.. your PSU will fit perfectly though.
The normal HAF XB and the EVO shares the same panels, so the non EVO top will fit the EVO smile.gif
The EVO is the newest and probably the last one.

Good luck! thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by welshy46 View Post

Gambi, positive air pressure in the case helps to stop the dust settling, so does doing the housework wink.gif . With 2x 140mm fans, 1x 200mm, 1x 180mm, and 1x 120mm fan blowing in and 6x 120mm sucking out there's not much chance for the dust to settle. I'm sure I read someone's post that said they had a corsair 1200w PSU and the fan didn't line up with the xb's fan hole ?.
Since the 200mm is in the top (where dust like to land) it will always blow that dust into the cabinet.. maybe the positive pressure would blow out the majority of the dust, I dont know. but I definitely got a lot of dust in my system when I ran my 200mm as intake..
ended up making that sweet window instead and never looked back wink.gif now dust is landing on the window though tongue.gif
If it works for you, it works for you.thumb.gif

Yea, looked further into that PSU thing, you are right.. the fan IS a bit further in.. just looked at some angled pics that made it look like it was in the same position as say ax760.
Edited by GaMbi2004 - 2/12/14 at 5:10pm
 
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post #7132 of 10491

Dear welshy46

 

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Gambi, positive air pressure in the case helps to stop the dust settling, so does doing the housework wink.gif . With 2x 140mm fans, 1x 200mm, 1x 180mm, and 1x 120mm fan blowing in and 6x 120mm sucking out there's not much chance for the dust to settle. I'm sure I read someone's post that said they had a corsair 1200w PSU and the fan didn't line up with the xb's fan hole ?.

Vamet, apologies. Writing Polish is even harder than pronouncing it. Thankfully your English is better. I can't even spell the places I visited in Poland redface.gif . As for cooling your CPU, you should get a better cooler if you're going to over clock your CPU. Any of the 240mm or 280mm prebuilt coolers will fit in the front of the case. With two sets of fans and room for your graphics card. Up to a radiator thickness of 45mm. I wanted cougar fans for my build, purely because they are orange. Too expensive in the UK, nice looking fans though.

 

No problem at all with your Polish. My English is terrible :) ...but thank you anyway, it's nice to hear.

 

Why do you think, I should change my LQ315? It's very little worse then Corsair H100, but it's much worse then H100i. i5 4670K from 3.4 GHz stock to 4.2 GHz isn't so much, but sometimes max for most of people ;) I think that LQ315 will be enough, especially, that my motherboard is H87 not Z87. What do you think about my PSU 550W, is it enough for OC my system (as below)?

 

UNIT MANUFACTURER MODEL CODE QUANTITY
MOBO ASROCK FATAL1TY H87 PERFORMANCE FATAL1TY H87 PERFORMANCE 1
CPU INTEL CORE I5-4670K BX80646I54670K 1
CPU COOLING ZALMAN LQ315 LQ315 1
RAM CORSAIR VENGEANCE 8GB CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 1
GPU MSI GEFORCE GTX 770 N770 TF 2GD5/OC 1
PSU CORSAIR CS550M CP-9020076-EU 1
HDD WESTERN DIGITAL CAVIAR BLUE 1TB WD10EZEX 2
CASE COOLER MASTER HAF XB EVO RC-902XB-KKN2 1
KEYBOARD LOGITECH MK520 920-002613 1

 

HERE you have some test and comparison chart for Zalman LQ315.

 

 

 

 

Best regards.
 

Sincerely


Edited by VAMET - 2/12/14 at 5:22pm
post #7133 of 10491
Welcome Vamet!

Im glad you chose this case biggrin.gif Everyone has answered all your questions, however I can add to the differences in the normal XB and the EVO.

The updated features (Rev 2) apply to the regular XB and the EVO version. This includes the clearance adjustment to accommodate the 140mm fans in the front, and the PCB for the xdock having sata power instead of molex (also the sata ports now point up, instead of toward the psu). Both versions also have removable drive cages

The features that are ONLY present in the EVO are better front fans (Jetflos), and instead of a 2.5" drive cage(4 drives), there is a 3.5" drive cage (2 drives)

Im not 100% certain about this but the EVO may have a removable 5.25" bay.

I think there is only a difference of $10, EVO being more expensive. So if you plan on changing the fans anyway, and you dont ever need more than 2x3.5" hdd, then save a little $$ and buy the non-EVO.
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Dear welshy46


No problem at all with your Polish. My English is terrible smile.gif ...but thank you anyway, it's nice to hear.

Why do you think, I should change my LQ315? It's very little worse then Corsair H100, but it's much worse then H100i. i5 4670K from 3.4 GHz stock to 4.2 GHz isn't so much, but sometimes max for most of people wink.gif I think that LQ315 will be enough, especially, that my motherboard is H87 not Z87. What do you think about my PSU 550W, is it enough for OC my system (as below)?



Best regards.

 
Sincerely

My advice would be, if you are going to go with something other then the LQ315, and especially if you are willing to move up to a 240 instead of a 120, go with this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103196&Tpk=glacer%20240l

I know it is 40$ more than the LQ, but if you can get one, they are great! Powerful pump, expandable if you ever wanted to add another 120 rad and a GPU block. It was originally a Swiftech product, but because of licensing (and patent?) issues they had to team up with cooler master to make this version. From what i have read this version is just as good if not better then the first Swiftech one.

And just so I'm clear, when i say it's expandable, it still comes fully functional as an All In One closed loop cooler, no assembly needed, no filling, just install and go like all the others. It just has the ability to be "opened up" and add other parts like more rads, a reservoir, etc.... to make a semi-custom loop

Edit: Oh, and grab a couple of Gentle Typhoon AP-15s or AP-14s for that as well if you can get your hands on em thumb.gif one of the best rad fans ever made.
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if you still find those AP14's or 15's in stock let us know! thumb.gif
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Dear Friends

 

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Welcome Vamet!
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Im glad you chose this case biggrin.gif Everyone has answered all your questions, however I can add to the differences in the normal XB and the EVO.

The updated features (Rev 2) apply to the regular XB and the EVO version. This includes the clearance adjustment to accommodate the 140mm fans in the front, and the PCB for the xdock having sata power instead of molex (also the sata ports now point up, instead of toward the psu). Both versions also have removable drive cages

The features that are ONLY present in the EVO are better front fans (Jetflos), and instead of a 2.5" drive cage(4 drives), there is a 3.5" drive cage (2 drives)

Im not 100% certain about this but the EVO may have a removable 5.25" bay.

I think there is only a difference of $10, EVO being more expensive. So if you plan on changing the fans anyway, and you dont ever need more than 2x3.5" hdd, then save a little $$ and buy the non-EVO.

 

 

Nice, thank you for your advice. May you provide some pictures or video of EVO showing new PCB for the XDock with SATA power and ports points up? I haven't found any video on youtube with the new EVO version or Revision 2 of regular XB.

 

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Originally Posted by winterwarrior View Post

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My advice would be, if you are going to go with something other then the LQ315, and especially if you are willing to move up to a 240 instead of a 120, go with this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103196&Tpk=glacer%20240l

I know it is 40$ more than the LQ, but if you can get one, they are great! Powerful pump, expandable if you ever wanted to add another 120 rad and a GPU block. It was originally a Swiftech product, but because of licensing (and patent?) issues they had to team up with cooler master to make this version. From what i have read this version is just as good if not better then the first Swiftech one.

And just so I'm clear, when i say it's expandable, it still comes fully functional as an All In One closed loop cooler, no assembly needed, no filling, just install and go like all the others. It just has the ability to be "opened up" and add other parts like more rads, a reservoir, etc.... to make a semi-custom loop

Edit: Oh, and grab a couple of Gentle Typhoon AP-15s or AP-14s for that as well if you can get your hands on em thumb.gif one of the best rad fans ever made.

 

 

Yes, this is a massive CPU water cooling product :) ...but there is no shop in Poland, when I may buy such product. Thoses Gentle Typhoon are only as radiator fans? What will you propose for front case fans 2x140mm (3-PIN) other then Cougars?

 

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Originally Posted by SortOfGrim View Post

if you still find those AP14's or 15's in stock let us know! thumb.gif

 

I will let you know, but at the moment there is no such fans in Poland ;)

 

EDIT

 

How should I mount the heatsink with a fan of Zalman LQ315 on the rear of the case (in the place of 1x120mm)? Pipes going from radiator should be closer from the GPU, or maybe of the other side - closer to the fan on top of the case?

 

Best regards.

 

Sincerely


Edited by VAMET - 2/13/14 at 2:32am
post #7137 of 10491
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Originally Posted by VAMET View Post

Dear Friends

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Nice, thank you for your advice. May you provide some pictures or video of EVO showing new PCB for the XDock with SATA power and ports points up? I haven't found any video on youtube with the new EVO version or Revision 2 of regular XB.


Yes, this is a massive CPU water cooling product smile.gif ...but there is no shop in Poland, when I may buy such product. Thoses Gentle Typhoon are only as radiator fans? What will you propose for front case fans 2x140mm (3-PIN) other then Cougars?

I will let you know, but at the moment there is no such fans in Poland wink.gif

EDIT

How should I mount the heatsink with a fan of Zalman LQ315 on the rear of the case (in the place of 1x120mm)? Pipes going from radiator should be closer from the GPU, or maybe of the other side - closer to the fan on top of the case?

Best regards.

Sincerely

here too mad.gif

As for the heatsink; orientation doesn't matter, see what fits best. Also better temps are with fans in push/pull config.
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here too mad.gif

As for the heatsink; orientation doesn't matter, see what fits best. Also better temps are with fans in push/pull config.

Check your instruction manual for fitting. Heatsinks usually only go one of two ways. There is a coin slot shaped aperture on the water channel where the water takes the heat from your cpu. I'm on my phone at work at moment. So not easy to check, but find out wich way the actual chip on your cpu goes. I think it's top to bottom You need to sit the heatsink on so the water slot is inline with the chip. not cutting across it. I'll check when I het home but that won't be for a while.

Gambi, I haven't had my rig togethrr long enough for it to get dusty. I keep taking it to bits to mod it lol. Im sure once it's finished I will have to change my fans around. Although I do keep a soft bristle brush next to it for cleaning redface.gif
post #7139 of 10491
Yey biggrin.gif My GPU came in the mail today ^ ^



Upgraded from 680 to 780 (under RMA) for an extra 100 dollars, and also got AC4BF, worth 60 dollars~ so 40 dollars for the upgrade tongue.gif

The new water block and acrylic parts (and more) shoule come within the next week ^^
 
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Dear welshy46

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Check your instruction manual for fitting. Heatsinks usually only go one of two ways. There is a coin slot shaped aperture on the water channel where the water takes the heat from your cpu. I'm on my phone at work at moment. So not easy to check, but find out wich way the actual chip on your cpu goes. I think it's top to bottom You need to sit the heatsink on so the water slot is inline with the chip. not cutting across it. I'll check when I het home but that won't be for a while.

 

You are talking about pump, which is mounted on the CPU socket. I am talking about radiator and the tubes, which goes from radiator - on which side they should be mounted in lanbox like HAF XB EVO. In normal case, standard tower the pipes/tubes are directed to the bottom of the case, but in HAF XB EVO there is no such possibility to mount it that way. There are only two ways on the left side closer to GPU or the opposite closer to side panel (closer to the CPU socket). I have heard that correctly mounted tubes should be directed to the bottom, but in lanbox it's not possible.

 

Best regards.

 

Sincerely

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